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Old 01-31-2008, 01:48 PM   #29
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Does that 4CU number include those of us that have joined in the last few weeks?
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:50 PM   #30
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Does tat 4CU umber those of us that hae joined in thelast few weeks?
No.Only those that paid dues by November 15,2007 and made it in the annual directory.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:54 PM   #31
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unit #000 is still the largest defined block,

unit #000 continues to add the most new members month and yearly...

unit #000 members pay the most and...

unit #000 members give the most money DIRECTLY to 'club central'

unit #000 needs to be recognized...

unit #000 should be appreciated for the potential it holds...

unit #000 may be a temporary stop for some but,

unit #000 is the GOAL of many, to be 'at large' within the club.

unit #000 is the key to long term INTERNATIONAL club prosperity...

unless and until unit #000 is viewed in a different light...

membership and MOST local units will continue to decline.

even the few fun, healthy, active, growing local units need unit #000...

currently only a few local leaders 'get' the value of unit #000.

and fewer still want to EMPOWER the members of unit #000...

the current policy of member apartheid is an old poison that weakens the whole...

give FULL MEMBERSHIP privileges to unit #000...

power to the people at large!

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:11 PM   #32
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I agree with 2'air,

But, it isn't going to happen unless those members, plus as many in the units as well, raise it in a way that the executive can't miss the imperative of doing this. Excuse my ignorance but is that something that could be initiated at the International in Bozeman? Or done via an email and mail in campaign? Both? Whatever, let me know and I'll support it.

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:13 PM   #33
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As for the 4CU # as a note I joined pre end of November, actually this is the second year my name never got into the directory for whatever reason. It doesn't really matter to me in that regard, but it does skew the numbers a tad. But close enough - 19 members in such a short time seems pretty good to me.

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:26 PM   #34
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As I seem to recall from a couple of years ago when I was a Unit President, the membership and Unit schedule info for the directory has to be sent in by November 1st in order to be included in the directory received the following January. That gives them roughly 6-8 weeks to get it input, printed and distributed to the membership in January.

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:28 PM   #35
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As I seem to recall from a couple of years ago when I was a Unit President, the membership and Unit schedule info for the directory has to be sent in by November 1st in order to be included in the directory received the following January. That gives them roughly 6-8 weeks to get it input, printed and distributed to the membership in January.

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The November 15th date is what is shown on page 2 of the 2008 directory.Maybe it has changed in recent years.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:42 PM   #36
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Either that or I had to send it in by the first which gave them some time to compile the info...

On second thought, there is always the possibility I gave myself a self-imposed deadline just to be sure we made the cut!

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Old 01-31-2008, 03:14 PM   #37
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I see all the usual suspects on the usual rationalizations ... ;-)

I think the IRS has something to say that should be considered:

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Personal Contact Required: An essential earmark of an exempt club is personal contact, commingling, and face-to-face fellowship. Members must share interests and have a common goal directed toward pleasure, recreation, and other nonprofitable purposes. Fellowship need not be present between each member and every other member of the club so long as it is a material part in the life of the organization. A statewide or nationwide organization that is made up of individual members, but is divided into local groups, satisfies this requirement if fellowship is a material part of the life of each local group.
(BTW, this is one reason why many such clubs have attendance requirements at their meetings and events)

Another one that comes up here is about score cards and 'what is winning?' that is being discussed here. Numbers are fun but, if used as a measure, you need to make sure you are measuring the right things.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:23 PM   #38
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I would think the numbers would be more meaningful if they were expressed as percentages. Some units have different goals as a result of their membership. Some have degenerated into small camping clubs that hold two rallies per year but meet with old friends for breakfast every month. Some like WDCU (as noted above) include many former MAL members who have found it is cheaper to pay the $1/year dues and get a vote rather than pay $20 and get no vote. The Washington Unit owns a very nice park and you get special price parking fees if you pay your International dues through them. I am sure there are many other reasons some units are on different paths than others. I am sure Bill Schrader will be looking at all the reasons for the decreases and increases in membership with his new 20/20 committee.
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I just took a look at the numbers and as of the last update the Four Corners Unit has:
38 Unit Members
28 Affilate Members
66 Total

We had a lot of members join at the end of the year and did not make he directory.

We had several brand new members to the club, a few members transfer from other units and a couple of MALs who joined our unit.
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I just took a look at the numbers and as of the last update the Four Corners Unit has:
38 Unit Members
28 Affilate Members
66 Total

We had a lot of members join at the end of the year and did not make he directory.

We had several brand new members to the club, a few members transfer from other units and a couple of MALs who joined our unit.

Impressive Richard.Can't say I am surprised.
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It's all about friend getting out together and having a good time. I think we have signed up most of our members at rallies. No pressure, just come on out and join us for a weekend and see how you like it.
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:26 PM   #42
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Hi Mike

Thanks for compiling this that is great info.

We should fine out the best practices of the growing units and communitcate them to the rest.

Thanks Again.

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