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Old 03-29-2007, 03:35 PM   #15
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Paul;
Great idea. We are stuck in the paper age and very little if any information is passed along via e-mail. Currently I am the Nevada Unit 1st VP and assuming we stay an Airstream club I'll be Unit Pres in 2009. Sharing ideas via the Internet would be instant and a lot of officers past and present would most certainly have some great input.

We only have 25 familes in our unit and about a dozen do not own a computer and I'm not sure how many log on to the forums. Even so, the few of us that do log on can reap a lot in valuable information from such a forum.

You are probably aware of Renee Ettline's communication liaison via the Web. She respons quickly and forwards any ideas to the appropriate club officer.
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:04 PM   #16
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Good idea --my observations--When at a region 6 rally this fall I mentioned the forum several times to different ones there. I couldn't find anyone who even knew what a forum was !!! ---pieman
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:51 PM   #17
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Rock and a hard place!

My thoughts are currently between "A rock and a hard place". If we were(the unit prez's of the WBCCI and Intra clubs) to setup a forum for present/past officers to bounce idea's, etc... What's the best way and the best place? Keep it open or closed to only unit/intra club prez's present/past. If you close it, I can hear the "They are just like the IBT" already. If you open it up, you run the chance (on this forum) of having the "The WBCCI s*cks" and "I left because" and "I would not join becuase" responses that could muddy up what someone is trying to do. If you put it over on the WBCCI site, less people, but more members that I think are trying to make the WBCCI a better place and not just venting. If you put on the WBCCI site, it shows the IBT and the membership that the unit and intra club officers are trying to do their part in taking the WBCCI to the next level and into the future. And again, shows we are not just filling a spot. I will post a message to "Bill Schrader" asking him, just in case he does not check this site about the idea. I also want to make sure this comes from all of us and not just me. My time is up this year, but you trustee's, 3rd, 2nd and 1stVP's will be running with the ball in the future, so your input in "very" important on what and how you want to see something, if anything. I know, myself and many other past prez's will be more than happy to give ideas on what did and did not work. But am glad to see there is interest on the subject. Now we just need to figure out the best way for the membership and the future of the WBCCI to do it. Thoughts??
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:05 PM   #18
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A couple of questions

1) How many people are we talking about?

2) Can you all get together online during, say, a 48 hour period and just introduce yourselves briefly to one another?
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #19
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Another thought

If indeed we do this...it should be opened to ALL unit officers. I've been nominated to be 3rd VP of our unit so that means several years before becoming Prez. One of my beefs with our unit has been getting them out of the 'clubhouse' mindset. Every rally we have MUST be in a clubhouse so the domino and card players can play.

I'm not in the domino/cardplaying recreation group and like campfires and folks that can play guitar, etc. By being able to ask other officers how they are doing this (campfires, etc) I may be able to pass some suggestions along to the officers in front of me.

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Old 03-30-2007, 08:54 AM   #20
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1) How many people are we talking about?
Potentially, a whole bunch! If there are 240+/- Units and the forum is for past, present & upcoming Unit/Region/IntraClub Board members, over a couple of years with healthy, active members, everybody gets their chance in the leadership roles. At least that's the goal...

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Old 03-30-2007, 06:23 PM   #21
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Lets Hope!

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We've had some good feed back. In the end, I think having it on the WBCCI/forums is the way to go and keeping it open. I will email Bill asking him to create a new "title" called "Leadership". If we are lucky, maybe the BB will run a story on the new area. I will also ask "HQ" if they would mind mailing out a letter to the unit leaders letting them know. I'll even cough up the $100.00 for postage to send it out. I do think, if used, it could be a great tool for current/past and future officers of the WBCCI. I just hope we can get it passed by the people that can make it happen.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:18 PM   #22
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Nice show of leadership Paul! I would be glad to help out with the postage. I think it is important to have more representation of membership in view of the disconnect we have been dodging the effects of from the top. You are out tracking all down and courting involvement rather than just waiting for them to come to you. That is dedication, the kind that gets things moving. Break up the that bottleneck.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:19 PM   #23
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Great Idea, Paul. You could initiate your plan on either forum.
Although only a few members are currently tuned-in to this “Airstreamforums” and the WBCCI Forum, that can be changed. Put a notice on the forums, in the regional and local newsletters & websites, send direct Emails to past & present officers and if they will let you, put a notice in the Blue Beret.

The present way officers meet and exchange ideas at the regional and international is too 20th century. It is pre-internet, paper centric and slow.
Quite often ideas are filter and altered on the way up the chain of command and plans and initiatives are filter on the way down.

Paul, take the lead and take control of a sub-forum to get the officers communicating. Acceptance by the IBT? I may be wrong, but it appears to me that although some might listen to new or different ideas, I’m afraid the legacy of their management practices are too restrictive to accommodate progressive ideas that might include any risks. This forum is filling the void the WBCCI, didn’t know existed, and those few that did know their shortcomings, were powerless to correct the situation.

Besides current and former officers we have many talented and experienced individuals (non-officers) in the club who want to help the WBCCI develop along progressive lines and preserve the organization as WB originally envisioned. Another channel for inter and intra-club communication and “cross pollination” is necessary. That almost requires open communications, but limited to WBCCI members.

How best to implement and develop your idea, while maintaining some control to keep people on topic, is the question. The plan in your last posting sounds like a very good start. Good luck.
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We've had some good feed back. In the end, I think having it on the WBCCI/forums is the way to go and keeping it open. I will email Bill asking him to create a new "title" called "Leadership". If we are lucky, maybe the BB will run a story on the new area. I will also ask "HQ" if they would mind mailing out a letter to the unit leaders letting them know. I'll even cough up the $100.00 for postage to send it out. I do think, if used, it could be a great tool for current/past and future officers of the WBCCI. I just hope we can get it passed by the people that can make it happen.
Nice going, Paul! Thanks for putting "lead" back into leadership!

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Old 04-01-2007, 09:56 PM   #25
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Done!!!

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Just to let you guys/ladies know, it has been "DONE". Yes, Thanks to your input, and the fast acting "Cindy Reed" (HQ) and "Bill Schrader" (WBCCI Public Relations", an area on the WBCCI forums as been created called "Leadership". A letter will be added to a packet that will be going out to the Unit Prez's in April, letting them know about the new area. I will also be writing an article about the area, with luck, I think we maybe able to get it in the Blue Beret. We asked for it, now it's time to use it. I asked that all current/past officers of the WBCCI take the time to introduce themself, letting other officers know their Unit and Region. Also, I think it would be better to "try" and keep it on a "positive" note as much as possible, trying to stay away from a us/them type area. I think we have plenty of places already either here, savewally or other areas on the wbcci forums to do that. Here's the link if you don't have it.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:00 PM   #26
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Just to let you guys/ladies know, it has been "DONE". Yes, Thanks to your input, and the fast acting "Cindy Reed" (HQ) and "Bill Schrader" (WBCCI Public Relations", an area on the WBCCI forums as been created called "Leadership". A letter will be added to a packet that will be going out to the Unit Prez's in April, letting them know about the new area. I will also be writing an article about the area, with luck, I think we maybe able to get it in the Blue Beret. We asked for it, now it's time to use it. I asked that all current/past officers of the WBCCI take the time to introduce themself, letting other officers know their Unit and Region. Also, I think it would be better to "try" and keep it on a "positive" note as much as possible, trying to stay away from a us/them type area. I think we have plenty of places already either here, savewally or other areas on the wbcci forums to do that. Here's the link if you don't have it.
WBCCI Forum - Maybe there is hope after all.
Good work, Paul. I saw Bill Shrader's response and hopefully it will stay positive.

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Congratulations Paul. That kind of teamwork between you, Cindy, Bill and responses thus far is very heartening. I think the proactive leadership forum is wonderful for club morale!

I look forward to following the introductions and comments and your article. I am certain your efforts will bring reward to the club. I think this is very exciting. Good work.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:08 PM   #28
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Time to intro yourself officers present/past

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I hope you all take the time to introduce yourself on the WBCCI forums. Also asking your 3rd, 2nd and 1stVPs to do the same and your past Prez's. We asked for it, we got it, lets use it.
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