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Old 02-14-2016, 04:08 PM   #57
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You're right, it's not a one size fits all club. So why are you asking us all to join it in spite of that?

Silly. I never willingly add warts.
Because.... once all the smoke clears, and the politics subside, and the bickering stops.... there sits that wonderful trailer we all adore.

It is the bonding agent.

I suppose we don't need an official club to enjoy each others company, but we have one. And in my perhaps overly simplified way of thinking, why not join the club spawned from the belly pan of the Airstream?? It is not mandatory that you attend rallies, or read the Blue beret, or vote, or participate in any way.

Consider the $65 as a way to help share the love.
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #58
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We are new to the WBCCI. We joined to get those fantastic red numbers, learn about ASs and meet new people. We have attended one local rally. We enjoyed talking with other ASers about their experience and their rigs. We were impressed by the absolutely fanatical contribution the leaders made to make the event a success. We appreciated the welcoming response we got from those who attended the rally. It was a very positive experience. We left with a smile on our face. The Greater Bay Area Airstream Club is a cool group. Hope your unit is as well. Pat, 14711
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:49 PM   #59
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Because.... once all the smoke clears, and the politics subside, and the bickering stops.... there sits that wonderful trailer we all adore.

It is the bonding agent.

I suppose we don't need an official club to enjoy each others company, but we have one. And in my perhaps overly simplified way of thinking, why not join the club spawned from the belly pan of the Airstream?? It is not mandatory that you attend rallies, or read the Blue beret, or vote, or participate in any way.

Consider the $65 as a way to help share the love.
I'm "blood related" to a lot of people, and THAT is not even a bonding agent. ROFLMAO!
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:01 PM   #60
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I can conclude that the whole organization fails the integrity test.
This is an incindiary comment and completely false. I personally take offense that you have lumped me in your stereotype. You have never met me.

You may have met some people you did not agree with inside the club, but to lump us all together is unfair. I am sure you have also met people you did not like outside the club. The great many people in WBCCI are great people doing their best. Are you ever going to agree with all several thousand? Obviously not. But when you weigh the good against the bad, the good wins for a great many members. But some folks don't quite fit in, and that is ok. You, obviously didn't fit in.

Please refrain from hating on us all in the future.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:33 PM   #61
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Joe - Individually there are nice people in the WBCCI, just as there nice decent people in many other organizations. What happens is that these nice people bury their collective little heads in the sand when there is an issue that needs addressing. When the issue of the change to the Ontario Unit's bylaws was taking place I met with some of the newly elected International officers at a rally, and not one of them would intervene or take ownership of the issue, all the while lamenting that the change was not a good one. This is not a sign of integrity.

So while I have never met you Joe, I extend a welcome to you to camp alongside me at any time. Currently I'm in Casa Grande AZ, but will be going to Yuma next week. PM me for directions & my cell number.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:37 PM   #62
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I'm thinking it's time to lock this up before it gets more ugly. That's not why we are here.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:26 PM   #63
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Joe - Individually there are nice people in the WBCCI, just as there nice decent people in many other organizations. What happens is that these nice people bury their collective little heads in the sand when there is an issue that needs addressing. When the issue of the change to the Ontario Unit's bylaws was taking place I met with some of the newly elected International officers at a rally, and not one of them would intervene or take ownership of the issue, all the while lamenting that the change was not a good one. This is not a sign of integrity.

So while I have never met you Joe, I extend a welcome to you to camp alongside me at any time. Currently I'm in Casa Grande AZ, but will be going to Yuma next week. PM me for directions & my cell number.
I would stop by and say hi if I was near by, but I am not. I cannot defend either side in your case, but there are two sides to every story and it is not possible to take action on every issue that may concern one club member or even a few club members. Leadership has to balance the good of the organization against the wants of each individual. They also only have so many hours in the day to manage the club that they volunteered to lead. I expect your concern wad not a concern for very many club members. On a bigger issue, many U.S. citizens are frustrated that they need to leave their legally owned guns at home when they visit Canada. You can never please everyone.
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Old 02-15-2016, 05:51 AM   #64
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You could have joined a different unit.
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I went over to the RVillage opening page and it seems to me that it is just another social site where folks can hang out, meet up, discuss similar interests etc....
The opening page is even endorsed by several well known clubs. It seems like no big deal to me that WBCCI directed folks that way. I don't think it will take any members away unless such members have really odd interests, etc..... I have met such folks and camping with them just one time was enough for me.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:49 AM   #66
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On the Sprinter forum for LTV Unity, several people have posted links to the RV Village site. Quite frankly, I find the people at that site as interesting as the people posting here. Lot's of good info on RVing on both sites. Over the years, I've belonged to several brand affinity clubs (including WBCCI) and find that they tend to become boring after awhile. I'm a people person and the ownership of a Harley, Airstream, Porsche or what ever does not mean that you are charming and I need to know you. I like interesting people and their mode of transportation is not part of the process.
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Right on Denis4x4. My sentiments exactly.
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Regarding the original intent of this message string, I don't have any problem with WBCCI letting us know that about RVillage as a new opportunity for social interaction. I can see that some club members might find it appealing.

That said, after reviewing the RVillage web site and watching some of the videos, I have no desire whatsoever to join. I really do not want to advertise to the whole world when and where I am traveling (i.e. when my home will be unoccupied). I can keep in contact with my friends and make plans to meet them without doing so in a public portal.

I have nothing against those that don't share my concerns and see more positives than negatives and therefore join. It just won't be me.
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I'm thinking it's time to lock this up before it gets more ugly. That's not why we are here.
Yup. Couldn't agree more and for this reason this thread is being closed. regardless of opinions noted here for and against, our community rules are still in place. We expect folks to be nice and there are several failures in this regard on this thread.

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I went over to the RVillage opening page and it seems to me that it is just another social site where folks can hang out, meet up, discuss similar interests etc....
The opening page is even endorsed by several well known clubs. It seems like no big deal to me that WBCCI directed folks that way. I don't think it will take any members away unless such members have really odd interests, etc..... I have met such folks and camping with them just one time was enough for me.
RVillage is entirely commercial in nature and while that's fine, it's worth looking at what happens to member info and who controls it.

AIR continues to host an area for WBCCI topics and welcomes input from all, member and non-member alike but we ask that you remember the rules of the road here. Be nice, be reasonable and be appropriate.

Thanks for understanding
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