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Old 01-26-2006, 08:36 PM   #57
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If you want I could scan it for you and probably get it into a PDF format. I'd be glad to place it on our unit's website where you all could see it.

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Thanks Jack. We have the scanning and PDF'n covered but posting on the web is perfect. In fact it should be made available for everyone to see if we can so as soon as I get something and scan it in I'll PM you.
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Old 01-27-2006, 09:42 AM   #58
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Thanks Jack. We have the scanning and PDF'n covered but posting on the web is perfect. In fact it should be made available for everyone to see if we can so as soon as I get something and scan it in I'll PM you.
Great, and if you can do the same with the BB article I'll put that up also.

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Old 01-27-2006, 09:55 AM   #59
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You were right quick with that! It looks like my BB starts September 04 And yet I thought I had seen it. The AS dealer signed me up and that would not have been before some time in July 04.
Quick - no - it is because I am eating, sleeping and drinking the faite of this Club I joined at the moment.

It is just hard to understand how this whole issue has gotten so far from it's original intent - I keep thinking I am in the middle of a Nighmare

Where is the passion from the higher ups here - have they been lulled into submission afraid to stand up for what they believe.

If only there were some reasonable rationale for this name change process being communicated it would be an easier pill to at least sample. But all I keep reading is the case for a NO vote - so if it is so important to change this great club name and its history -

I challenge them to come forth with justification.

Maybe it is time for the other side of the debate to start a THREAD.

For the NO voters - behave (including me) let them speak and make their case - hold your comments and rebuttle until they are done.

So lets hear it all you PRO AOAII - explain WHY and HOW we will benefit from this change.......
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:12 AM   #60
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Quick - no - it is because I am eating, sleeping and drinking the faite of this Club I joined at the moment.

It is just hard to understand how this whole issue has gotten so far from it's original intent - I keep thinking I am in the middle of a Nighmare

Where is the passion from the higher ups here - have they been lulled into submission afraid to stand up for what they believe.

If only there were some reasonable rationale for this name change process being communicated it would be an easier pill to at least sample. But all I keep reading is the case for a NO vote - so if it is so important to change this great club name and its history -

I challenge them to come forth with justification.

Maybe it is time for the other side of the debate to start a THREAD.

For the NO voters - behave (including me) let them speak and make their case - hold your comments and rebuttle until they are done.

So lets hear it all you PRO AOAII - explain WHY and HOW we will benefit from this change.......


You're not the only one that is eating,sleeping and drinking the faite of the club and I commend you for it.

I've received a next day response from WBCCI home office regarding the membership number.I got a quote of approx. 7200 members.I am assuming the difference between their number and mine can be attributed by Directory omissions and new member sign-ups.I am still awaiting from another WBCCI source her number.
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:19 PM   #61
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Great, and if you can do the same with the BB article I'll put that up also.

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I don't have that. We joined in July - 05 so we don't have any BBs before then.
Somebody else will have to do that if they can...
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:20 PM   #62
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Great, and if you can do the same with the BB article I'll put that up also.

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Glad to know this is covered two times over but where are the links I would like to actually see these! C'mon this is internet. I need instant gratification!
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:25 PM   #63
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I don't have that. We joined in July - 05 so we don't have any BBs before then.
Somebody else will have to do that if they can...

What do you need scanned - if I have what you want I can no problem - and what format and where do I send to????
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:50 PM   #64
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What do you need scanned - if I have what you want I can no problem - and what format and where do I send to????
The survey itself as presented to the members ib BB (Aug, 2004 I think it was). I have never seen it myself. It can be sent in any format you can make. I can PM my address to you if the file is too big or post here on the forums because that is the eventual destination.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:09 PM   #65
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The survey itself as presented to the members ib BB (Aug, 2004 I think it was). I have never seen it myself. It can be sent in any format you can make. I can PM my address to you if the file is too big or post here on the forums because that is the eventual destination.
The survey was sent out in the February 2004 Issue - which I did not get I joined up in Feb - but my first mailing was in January.

But I do have the Results edition of the Survey with is in the August 2004 Edition.

I have scanned the 11-14 and just having to touch them up as it is difficult to scan "newsprint".

PM me and I will sent them to you no problem. Anything else I can scan.

Scanning from the BB reminded me of an earlier comment of miss-information - maybe it might be time to provide official corporate documentation via letters to members rather than relying on all sorts of different reports typed throughout the BB - None- seem to be official anyway and yet many times I here people in office refer to the BB as the official communication avenue to its members.

Now might be a good time for them to pull up all that has been written and just see how each officer types out the motions that are in quesiton...
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:52 AM   #66
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WBCCI came through - I got the envelope today with the survey results. It's a real eye opener! There are in fact something like 28 pages of comments broke out over several categories.
I will be scanning to PDF this weekend.
It also breakes the vote out as percentages and number of responses received.
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:17 AM   #67
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WBCCI came through - I got the envelope today with the survey results. It's a real eye opener! There are in fact something like 28 pages of comments broke out over several categories.
I will be scanning to PDF this weekend.
It also breakes the vote out as percentages and number of responses received.

Happy reading - just keep in mind that it represents a mere 13% of all wbcci members with 68% over the age of 55 (retired) and 52% are or were Officers of either local regional or International level.

Even the sampling barely represents a "quorum" of members (20%) would have at least been justifiable to look seriously into the results. But 13% would basically represent an "opinion".

However - it is great that there are some results that they do get out of it. That those people who volunteer - are encouraged by fellow volunteers to fill out the questionnaire as it is important. The big one - they know at least they have a guaranteed 13% readership of the Blue Beret.

And if WBCCI wanted to do a sampling questionnaire first and sample the over 55 age then they might have a good view from that demographic on the organizaton.

As well the Officer demographic - if honest - may also give an insight to the operations - but it is unfair for any Officer to answer the quesitonnaire and be tabulated with regular members - Evaluating yourself the program delivery infrastructure - that makes a lot of sense - I see a lot of rave reviews - or biais in many answers if that is the case.

I am going to hold off reading them - as I don't think they represent the membership well at all - somewhat like the decision on the table right now is not representing the membership either - it is representing a process that is top heavy with weighted votes.
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Old 02-18-2006, 07:53 PM   #68
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1996-116 members
1997-117 members
1998-108 members
1999-104 members
2000-101 members
2001- 91 members
2002- 85 members
2003- 87 members
2004- 83 members
2005- 80 members
2006- 76 members

Thanks for the unit stats streamer23

When our local unit gave the 2006 member count as 76 it was providing a count that is technically correct, but misleading. It is misleading because a good number of these members no longer own trailers, or attend rallies. WBCCIs membership count could be facing a real nose dive when members without trailers finally dropout.

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I am new to the WBCCI, and currently a member at large because I have no interest in joining the local unit after I paid them a visit last year and was treated like I didn't belong (even heard a comment of "they probably don't even own an Airstream") most of the people that belong to this unit treated us like outsiders so we chose to stay on the outside. They were mostly older people and we are a younger family and I think that is where the ball is being dropped myself, they are set in thier ways and don't want change!
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man that is one nice trailer....she cleaned up fine. and that original interior is very nice....

these "in the barn stories" always make me smile....

i'm at large as well...there seems to be several folks here from your part of washington, and northern oregon with similar demographics..... look around at some of the other almost local units. i see you've done the tct and vingage rallies so you've already found good groups.

post more photos here so others can enjoy your find...

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