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Old 06-28-2010, 12:37 PM   #29
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reg 9 installation rally will hold round table

reg 10 rally coming up later, 2 units polled one issue was credit card payment for dues communication IBT to unit member level

reg 11 held in fall

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turning it over to 2020, fiscal responsibility, watching outcome of meetings, want to seea ccounting and balanced budget transparency, communications eletronic dues is overhead and desire return International level of dues, many can only go rallies not caravans, have fun is constant through differences, leadership assist units to relate to all Airstream owners.

2020 chairman thanks Tom for the letters and appreciates it and wants all in club to read and see it. All reports are to be turned into the 2020 to review and continue to work on. Member share meeting tomorrow.

Doug Wiley wants region presidents to have reports to continue round table discussion.

Janie said this is not an action committee but that does that preclude bringing forth motions, there is a slight distinction she states.
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:40 PM   #30
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$1500 in the budget for next year for marketing.
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Old 06-28-2010, 01:12 PM   #31
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New Business

1.revised motion #4 contract and expenditure approval
amended new sec 7, reduce likelihood of unauthorized expenses

comments: most are covered by previous set amounts rather than tie hands...I see keeping rally cap but cannot support this, line #3 without prior approval is the budget that this will require all items to be reapproved, this effects the entire budget of the WBCCI, words need to be clarified in this motion of specifics, and not have to be reapproved.

answer: pressure of time there is merit to acquiring approvals, is the budget in sufficient detail , but we need a way to stop umbrella commitments

Comments: Norm Bea what exceeds $20,000 sanitation, but has agreed to no min attendance, perhaps revision it could potentially

answer: perhaps agree to a contingient variable

Comments: I recommend tabling the motion.

motion to be referred to budget comittee

Vote on midwinter being added to motion 18-0

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Caravan Fund
It is a separate fund and should have no impact upon WBCCI

Comments: I disagree that is should be removed and would like a return of funds under the supervision of national treasurer. It is not outside WBCCI, it is the same as reports of regions and units. As courtesy I recommend they give status report because otherwise all units and regions would have to make reports as to their income tax reports and so does the caravan report and are on file at JC. Perhaps that should be required of all regions then.

Answer: the original $1500 seed money was used and grew many many years ago and then shrank to zero balance where it is at this point. No reason to go back because there is nothing in it.

Comments: There is no accounting. I don't believe so. I see if the treasurer was responsible for caravan I can see adding obligations onto treasurer. What if a caravan fails? the money will be repaid to caravan leader up to $1000. eah caravan submits a report and it has to have a zero balance excess returned to paticipants. Where do the scouting fees come from? It is advanced from that fund later to be repaid by the leader. Jerry is delighted with the comments and thinks every one should be encouraged to go through the training program and supports the motion.

Vote deletion par 2 of the bylaws-- failed 6-11-0
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Old 06-28-2010, 01:19 PM   #32
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mileage reembursement

in financial dispersements says it is to be included for approval is redunadant and waste time with two approvals

vote 18-0-0 passed

region officers term option
should not discourage others from completing more than one half term and still serve their own term.

vote passed

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Old 06-28-2010, 01:30 PM   #33
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Region 9 President apologized to all the members who wanted change for caravans because the IBT thinks it knows better what's right for them.
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Meeting is adjourned.
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Old 06-28-2010, 03:08 PM   #35
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A member has contacted me as to a posted error, the marketing budget is set for $15,000. Hey that's alot less than the cost of letters sent to Leo.

Please excuse my spelling errors and fragmented phrases, I am no typist and trying my best to listen, think, type, and chew gum at the same time. I was in waaay over my head when Sanders spoke on matters of economics...

Now I would think the delegates meeting will prove interesting and members will want to have a listen but as mentioned previously there is no confirmation or listing of a simulcast for the member share or delegates meetings.

Hopefully some one in attendance will care to offer a first hand look at what transpires for the benefit of those not in attendance.
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Just returned home, thanks for the info, Miss Carol.

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You're welcome glad to be of service. Hope everything went A-OK at the doctors today.
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A member has contacted me as to a posted error, the marketing budget is set for $15,000. .
Great deal, no competing bids just give the contact to this guy, I know him, he's ok.?
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Carol, Thanks for posting this. We have been on the road all day and couldn't listen. Probably not what one needs to hear while driving anyway.

I will read through it more thoroughly later but my initial impression is nothing has change except perhaps some of the regions are getting more vocal.
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Arrow How was this expense approved?

Tom Collier, International President: As you were reading your report it was asked if we had a breakdown on the legal expenses, I have passed those out. The board has those in front of them. You can question them, but it's already a fact so there's not too much we can do about it. It's something that we had not anticipated. I do not feel good about the monies we had to spend to do this. If I had to do it over again under the same circumstances, I would do it in a minute. I did this to protect our club and while it was not favorable, it was needed. Are there any questions on this report you have in front of you?
Don Rogers, Region 7 President: So as I'm looking down your list here, the major payout here of $23,351.00 was in relationship to I believe past member Leo G. and that was to do with legal fees with his...

Tom Collier: With everything from starting August through this last week, yes sir.

Don Rogers: So, his actions cost our club $20,351.00 is that without...

Tom Collier: That's pretty much it.

Don Rogers: Fine, thank you.

Tom Collier: Any other questions?

John Stumpf, President Region 6 (3rd Grievance Filer against Leo): Do we have anyway of recouping any of these costs? Or does it...

Tom Collier: Not being an attorney John I cannot answer that. We'd have to go through court I would think.


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And these Delegates just sit there and allow themselves to be cut off mid sentence while one individual carries out a personal vendetta.

Someone ought to nominate Fred Brugmans for a leadership position. At least he was not shouted down by the "supreme bully" when his unit asked him to make a point.
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I contacted Cindy, it was an error, the delegates meeting will be broadcast as usual.
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