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Old 11-19-2002, 12:00 PM   #71
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I wish someone would have told the Georgia Unit how it is supposed to be. My one rally was so disheartening I let the WBCCI membership go after the first year. We tried it...

I want to add though that I do not wish to discourage anyone from joining WBCCI based on my quite limited experience!!
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Old 11-19-2002, 01:31 PM   #72
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I just attended my second rally with the Region 9, Highland Lakes Unit. Both rallies were great fun and I'm looking forward to the next rally the first full weekend in December.

My wife is still working, so I was alone (except for my cat). I could not have asked for a better reception.
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Old 06-24-2003, 02:18 PM   #73
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I participated and love it

Well it has been a fun road to travel.

Since my first rally I have been to many unit rallies and I am looking forward to going to the North Carolina State Rally at Cape Hatteras this September folowed by my second South Carolina State Rally in October.

I have consumed many beverages without judgement from my fellow WBCCI members and have grown very attached to the comraderie.

I have enjoyed it so much that I volunteered as a Recording Secretary for the year to follow.

My wife has even grown to enjoy thie folks and the outings each month.

Morale of this story is:

Try it and see for yourself, I believe that you too will enjoy the WBCCI

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Old 06-24-2003, 03:16 PM   #74
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To be honest, I got the year membership after buying the Bambi. The newsletters seem a bit stale. I am sure the folks there are real nice at a rally, but I have heard both good and bad about the rallys in general. They jury is still out if I will retain the membership after it expires.

Truth be told, I've had a blast meeing some of the folks on this forum. To be honest, that is worth more to me than spending the $$ to join a club. We kind of have our own little club here and it's and International one at that. Still I am still thinking about benefits vs. cost regarding WBCCI.
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Old 06-24-2003, 03:18 PM   #75
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I guess we are with AlanSD....just today a letter came from Robert Cooke, President, Southern Arizona Unit, WBCCI--the unit is being disbanded; our dues are still good with the AZ Unit.

We had hoped for locally started caravans--you guys in the East are more active in this I guess...they all start east of the Mississippi

Having not attended any rallies, cannot give/do not have an opinion; the Southern Arizona Unit seems to have a breakfast at some hotel....(this is an Airstream activity? )

AND I am not certain I wish my WBCCI# traceable--
How do I get the decals off when I am not longer interested (I never put them on) and not leave marks?
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Old 06-24-2003, 03:26 PM   #76
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I don't know for sure, but the crowds that WBCCI draws I am not sure reflects that of the younger generation that is buying the Airstreams. It's not shocking to me that chapters are closing. As a matter of fact, given the way the group seems to operate with local members vs. the main group, I personally am unsure WBCCI will grow any larger if exist at all in the future. Sure there are stronger groups than others, but it's been my perception from the newsletters and the folks out there that change is coming slowly to WBCCI and too slowly at that. This is part of the thought process I am thinking about as the renewal date comes due. I have also refused to place the numbers on the hull of the Twinkie, and might never place them on. I think to some diehard Airstreamers it's an ego or status thing, direct opposites of why I bought the Airstream or camp in general compared to going to hotels, etc.

Just my .02.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:16 PM   #77
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Like several others have voiced, we had some SEVERE concerns regarding the WBCCI. I knew it had the reputation as a old, conservative, rule-bound group (my parents were A/Sers when I was a teenager, so some first hand experience). Anyway, we did NOT buy the A/S to gain membership into the WBCCI. We basically did nothing regarding WBCCI from last Oct (when we purchased our new Bambi) thru Jan, but I had been in email contact with the membership chairperson (younger couple with 10yr old son). I had expressed our many concerns and she ensured me that the N Texas Unit was in transition and there were quite a few non-retired members and the mix was changing toward a younger crowd. We were invited to join them at an upcoming Feb Rally that was to be held close by. As has been also pointed out the "newsletters" as well as the Blue Beret were not exactly "must read" material in our home, so we set our expectations pretty low. We dropped in on the Feb rally during the Sunday morning breakfast to meet the club members and arrived just as "devotion" was occurring. We had not been looking to join a church, but stuck around anyway to met everyone and found a really great mix of people. We then decided to join them at their March rally and have been to every rally since. The group has been very inclusive and the fact that we are two men could have really tweaked a few noses, but just the opposite has occurred. We found the same inclusive nature when we attended the Region 9 rally in April. In talking with members in other units, I am finding that the resistance to change is melting (face it, it is literally dying). Our unit has rewritten many of the old traditions. I have also found that is some of the older members that want the change as much as those of us a bit younger. Although I would not say that we exactly have open bar at rallys, there are nightly gatherings at each other's rigs where we sit around sharing good wine, beer, food and conversation. Rally locations and details are totally in the control of the hosting member. But then there is still the silly concept that breakfast should be a 7am, so more change is needed. I recommend that everyone thinking that they might NOT like the WBCCI to give it a try and don't be afraid to talk and find out what is really happening within the unit and realize that you may well be the change agent that a unit needs. Some of closest new A/S friends (1st VP in another unit) have told us that while change is coming, there are still many close minded individuals in the club resisting, so there will conflicts to overcome and strong voices reflecting differing views are needed.
The WBCCI is still a strong organization and although it certainly has some rough roads to travel over the next 10 years, I have no doubt that it will survive and evolve.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:37 PM   #78
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Devotions? DEVOTIONS! That settles it You have more in common with the WBCCI than We do.

All We wanted to do was be able to go somewhere with a group of Airstreamers.....we are not into Christmas breakfasts....

I think that we misunderstood what WBCCI is/was.

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Old 06-24-2003, 05:50 PM   #79
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All We wanted to do was be able to go somewhere with a group of Airstreamers.....
You hit the nail on the head. Many of the rallies offer a brief "service" on sunday morning, attendence is not mandatory and I have never heard of anyone being called out because they were not there. Some times we go other times we don't.

My experiece with the WBCCI is that the group is very patriotic, and has a strong belief in the traditional moral framwork. Think 1950's. A pre meal Prayer tends to be normal at group meals, but never in an overbearing way. The other thing to remember is each unit is diffrent. Our current unit, Florida Springs, is one of the more gregarious ones I have been in the company of. The Milwaukee unit was more laid back, but fun too. You may have to look a bit, but I am sure you will be able to find a unit that you feel comfortable in.

I was sorry to see another unit having to dissolve. Many times it is due to not being able to get members to assume the duties of officers. If you like the folks you meet, and you want to see change sometimes you have to grab the bull by the horns and do it yourself. I am assuming the office of Unit President next year, and I am looking forward to shaking things up a bit. please don't think that the WBCCI is a thinly guised tent revival, cause in most cases it is anything but.
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I "hear" you new kid OK, have settled my feathers down here....was accustomed to a Kiwanis Club and we were "patriotic" and encouraged "moral" values .... We like organizations that do that....good thoughts, etc., but leave out the testimonials.

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Old 06-25-2003, 07:21 AM   #81
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Exclamation Try it before you knock it!

It is imperative that people read the whole thread before casting judgement!

If folks would read this whole thread from the beginning they would see that I too was concerned that maybe I was in the wrong crowd so I came to this forum and asked for a concensus, (with open mind I might add).

I felt that for the price of the membership, (free), I could try it out for a year and see for myself.

After nine months as a member, I am proud to say that I am fortunate to be member of one of the largest and most diverse units within the WBCCI. The WBCCI is made up of all walks of life just like Harley Davidson.

There is no one knocking on my trailer door on Sunday morning trying to drag me to "Devotion" and never once has any of my fellow unit members said a word about it. For the record, I have never attended a Sunday service at a rally and I have never felt snubbed or judged because of it either. My nine year old son does enjoy the service if that is any indication of how loose the service is. There is no revival or baptism going on at these services just a simple thanks and prayer to our creator.

The WBCCI is the largest organized camping organization in the WORLD! They were also the first.

My wife and I have consumed alcohol at every rally event that I have attended and never felt looked down upon by other members.

I am saddened to see that there are a few units that have dissolved but for every one that dissolves a new one is established.

The WBCCI was instrumental in building the phenom of the Airstream and will always be the Airstream endorsed club. We are not talking about a few thousand members here, we are talking tens of thousands including ten thousand in europe alone.

Airstreaming is rapidly regaining its notoriety in the world. I am certain that you folks have noticed that every time you turn on the television there is a new company using Airstreams in their commercials. GMC is the latest that I have seen.

Time marches on and with that comes evolution. Dont knock it until you have tried it! If it does not suit you at first, become active in the evolution of the club. The WBCCI is very large and strong. It is growing every day.

WBCCI is for the whole family and it is a safe, clean, organized way of camping.

I say to thee, come one come all and enjoy the WBCCI

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Ok, guys... interesting thread. We belong to WBCCI and have for about three years now. We've owned Airstreams since 1987, but didn't join until 2000. We attended the International Rally in Sioux Falls in 2000.

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Here's my perspective... the Sioux Falls rally was an unmitigated disaster. We are in our late 40s and have teenage kids and have many years to go to retire.

The folks running the parking didn't pay any attention to us as we arrived on Friday night after the Int'l started on Monday. We were very disappointed when we merely tried to find out what to do. There was no one to tell us as first timers where to go. We had little or nothing in common with most of the folks in attendance. The entertainment was abysmal. The 'clinics' weren't relevent.

Then we hooked up with the Vintage group. My kids hooked up with other kids their ages. We started talking about Airstreams with folks. We ended up having a nice time. I met the last surviving charter members of WBCCI who toured around the world with the Byams. I learned things from some of the 'old timers' I couldn't have learned anywhere else.

So... where do I stand on WBCCI? The club will become what we make of it. I don't care for the full-week rallys as we can't attend. The newsletters are dated and kind of stale. There's a bunch of folks in their '70s and older who are struggling trying to keep it going doing what they've always done. We almost didn't renew our membership this year, but... after thinking it over for a very long time, we renewed and I'm glad we did.

If we want WBCCI to meet the needs of the boomers and younger folks into the future, we have to join, and become active. The officers in the local chapters influence what happens nationally. So, if the club isn't meeting your needs, but you want to be part of an international Airstream club, let's see what you can do to update the organization. If you don't belong, you can't help fix the problem.

So, join the club. The dues aren't THAT expensive. Using places like this forum, let's make the club relevent again!

<soapbox off>

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Old 06-25-2003, 08:17 AM   #83
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Jury is still out, but I will say it isn't looking very promising. One reason is that most of the groups from my take are retirees or empty nesters (understanding that there are other that are not, but they seem to be in the minority). Don't misread me, there is nothing wrong with that at all, it's just that being a 30 something, we're in a bit of a gen gap and place in life.... Second, there are just as many bad stories as there are good ones. Third, if I went soley by the newsletters, the folks in it seem like nice people, but I've watched paint dry and had a better time hammering stakes into my feet!

Last is the fact of all the friction I have been hearing about among the different groups. Locals not liking to mix with the main WBCCI and the opposite. Some of the comments on this are in this very thread I believe.

In the end I have about 6 months to make the final call and perhaps I might make one trip to check out the scene, but it's hard not to hear the undercurrent of issues and frankly, I don't want to get into the politics of being the young folks there trying to add some spice, that is sort of my job all day long, change, change, change.

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A few of the younger members and I had an informal get together after a unit luncheon a few weeks ago. We decided that we will be doing some local weekend rally's during the time when the unit has nothing official scheduled. These will be based much like the airstreamfourm rallys that you see popping up.

A minimum of organization, no seminars, tours, or other agendas other than a community campfire, tours of our units, and maybe a pot luck. This is camping as I know it and will keep the younger folks hopefully engaged and interested in the club. We also will go to camping sites that don't resemble parking lots.

This idea was bounced off one of the older unit officers and he thought it was a great idea. He noted this is the way it used to be but noted that it evolved into the current heavy scheduled agenda as the members all got older.

Our unit officers do recoginize that changes will have to be made in structure and content of our events to attract the younger member who eventually will be running the show in the future.
Personally I think there is enough room for us all to cater to those who like the current structure and those of us who would like to see less formality.

Bottom line I want to see the organization survive since I believe one of the best things we can do through WBCCI is to give direction to Airstream on current and future products. I think we carry the ability to lobby Airstream that really hasn't been used up to this point.

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