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Old 10-15-2009, 11:13 AM   #85
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Of course we can......now that I know you're a gal. More pics please.....and what was Joe talking about with the tight halter, whatever? Inquisitive minds want to know.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:17 AM   #86
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Oh Summerkid - is that your way of elinimating the scratching of a clothing tag? I usually try to just remove the tag - but removing the top portion of the shirt is definately easier!
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:23 AM   #87
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I cannot help but wonder how much longer Airstream is going to continue to support the WBCCI. They have a very large number of new customers who are not able to find a way to participate in an Airstream supported club that operates in a fashion that fits their lifestyle.

Ah yes, it's their lifestyle that's the problem and not the club.
I have often wondered the same thing... just look at the ways in which Airstream Inc. markets their product and how "out of the step" the club is with that marketing approach.
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Oh Summerkid - is that your way of elinimating the scratching of a clothing tag? I usually try to just remove the tag - but removing the top portion of the shirt is definately easier!
As I see it... that piece of clothing did not start out as a "shirt".... nor as any kind of "womens" clothing.


take a closer look...
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:41 AM   #91
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What's happened to the WBCCI isn't really any different than what has happened to thousands of clubs and social organizations. The curious reader might try, "Bowling Alone." I've seen the same thing happen locally. After something like 80 years, the local Woman's Club folded. Several years ago, I spoke at a Rotary Club meeting where the average age had to be 85. The group dissolved after the last few members either died or moved into assisted living.

The WBCCI is old, shrinking and losing money. Some of the area units are doing well. Some are not. The more successful units generally have moved beyond the "starched shirt with a name tag" approach. Many Airstream owners would like to have a successful, growing, unified club... but few see any solution to the ever increasing cultural divide between the units and the International.

On a side note, I don't really get the whole Wally Byam thing. To me, it's little like have a Lee Iaccoca Chrysler Club... but this is probably another cultural divide issue. Some Airstream owners revere Wally Byam... to others, he's just the guy who ran the company that built a pretty cool travel trailer.

Cultural shifts don't happen because people change. They happen because people die... and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Racism and sexism are less prevelant in modern American society because older, less tolerant generations have passed away. Please understand that I'm not judging. Slavery existed in the United States until 1865. Jim Crow laws existed until the 1960s. It is easy to look back from 2009 and say, "I would have marched from Selma to Montgomery." Personally, I think we're all more or less influenced by our times and culture. I had the opportunity to discuss this once with author Kurt Vonnegut... a truly memorable conversation.

The WBCCI isn't going to change... because if it changed it would NOT be the WBCCI, at least not to those long-time members who believe it is red numbers, name tags and just-one-doughnut-at-a-time, please. This is not meant to be pejorative in any way. My 87-year-old grandmother has different musical tastes than I do. She also has some other, mmmm, viewpoints... but that doesn't prevent me from caring about her or thinking she is a wonderful person. She is--like all of us--a product of her time.

The simple fact is that if the WBCCI is around in 20 years... it won't the same organization as it is today. The real question is not for observers, but for members. Are they willing to embrace change for the sake of the organization surviving... or would they rather see the club end before it becomes something different? What strikes me as a student of human experience is how change is so often more difficult than death.
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Between the 3 threads on this simultaneously, I don't remember what I wrote on which one. I think (among others) Hampstead and Chief have posted some insightful thoughts. Summerkid's experience at a church was an excellent analogy, though I'm wondering how she got from living along a river in Illinois with unusual neighbors to living near the Oregon coast (it's like a soap opera—will 'kid and Dave ever get together? Will she post revealing photos?).

I wrote on one of these threads, pretty much the same thing—let's move on. WBCCI may change, I'm not waiting nor have do I time to try to change it. The Forum meets my needs and has plenty of rallies, probably run by crazed people without name tags. We can each go our own ways.

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As I see it... that piece of clothing did not start out as a "shirt".... nor as any kind of "womens" clothing.


take a closer look...

Ohhhhhhhh, NOW i see ............

Somehow I thought it was a running shirt ...
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Hey There,
I had a similat experience some time ago. We were invited to a local rally, but we couldn't attend with our Airstream, so my wife and I drove to the campground on a Saturday afternoon for a " Meet & Greet". Arrived approx 1:PM and found the Airstreams and nobody was around. They were inside taking naps. Finally they aroused and we sat around at a picnic table and all my wife and I heard were talks about health and knee replacements. We couldn't get out of there quick enough. Luckily, we didn't put the red letters on our unit. Had a tough time getting used to those " Hats "
If I am still around at 75+, I will probably try again.
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Bob, I see you are two days younger than me and since I am your elder, let me tell you about my knees and my medigap plan…

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The people in the WBBCI are too old for me and will be when I'm 110 years old. Another era completely and one that I can't remotely relate to. We joined and quit after two meetings. More power to anyone under 80 that wants to join this archic club. I'd rather watch paint dry or mabe have my toe nails pulled out. Far less painfull than any WBCCI get together.
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