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Old 04-01-2011, 07:12 PM   #575
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Question It's April 1. Do you know where your constitution is?

First we were told the official version of the proposed new constitution would be released at the IBT.

It wasn't.

Next we were told it would be posted on the WBCCI web site by April 1.

It isn't. I just looked, and it's well after close of business today.

(And don't anybody deny these predictions--I have the quotes cued up in a text file ready to respond.)

So. . . back to sleep everybody.

We can have an informed discussion of the issues after the official version of the proposed revision is published, together with its supporting documents.

Whenever that is.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:27 PM   #576
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Please know that I arrived home today to find a priority mail envelope containing the promised paperwork. I really was hoping for an electronic version to save me a step.

When I make it back to my office, I intend on creating a pdf for distribution. This will minimally be emailed to NOVA members. If I can get it posted online somewhere, I will do that also.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:00 PM   #577
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Too bad that they couldn't include a CD with the PDF files.

I guess that I will have to wait for my unit president to distribute the documents.

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Please know that I arrived home today to find a priority mail envelope containing the promised paperwork. I really was hoping for an electronic version to save me a step.

When I make it back to my office, I intend on creating a pdf for distribution. This will minimally be emailed to NOVA members. If I can get it posted online somewhere, I will do that also.
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:44 AM   #578
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overdue? A redcoat and a watch? it must be awfully important like a party or something...

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Old 04-02-2011, 08:36 AM   #579
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Great metaphor, Carol.

Actually this whole thing has a lot of parallels to Alice in wonderland.

It started with the Red Queen proclaiming, "Off with his head!" (Leo)

We have been through the Red Queen proclaiming "Words mean whatever I say they mean." (numerous examples)

And now the proposed new constitution, if adopted, will bring to the WBCCI the Caucus Race!

Come to think of it, although our resident kwazy wabbit, 2air, has had the good sense to avoid this thread, his hat does look a lot like the Mad Hatter's. . .
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:21 AM   #580
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hey guys it was supposed to be published to the web after the region pres were mailed or emailed.

That happened Thursday, I'm as mad as you.

We'll find out from Cindy on Monday what the glitch was
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:40 AM   #581
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That is part of the military protocol. You can't see it before those above you in the chain of command see it. It went out express mail and all unit Presidents should have it by today's mail.

Anyone wanting to have it e mailed to them send me a PM and I will shot it out.
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The system appears to be to distribute from the main office to the region prez to the units to the members so as to involve as many people as possible in what could be something simple. I will be surprised if it ever gets to me through that system.. Little else does.
Hope it gets posted somewhere soon.
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Come people, is this REALLY a surprise. Could this have all been pr-planned?
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:45 AM   #584
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That is part of the military protocol. You can't see it before those above you in the chain of command see it.
The chain-of-command paradigm was in evidence a few years ago when one of the region presidents publicly upbraided then-VAC-president Sherri Davis for not controlling "her people". It would greatly help if the upper echelons realized that they're not in the military any more.

There is no chain of command
in a voluntary association, because there is no command.
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:50 AM   #585
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The system appears to be to distribute from the main office to the region prez to the units to the members so as to involve as many people as possible in what could be something simple. I will be surprised if it ever gets to me through that system.. Little else does.
Hope it gets posted somewhere soon.
The documents came directly from HQ to me. I will distribute to my unit. Actually, pretty simple.

But, online would have been much easier....

Maybe the time to let all the other stuff remain as is.

I really prefer to see a discussion on the amendments proposed. It almost feels like we are going in circles!

I do understand that the meat of the issues still need to be worked out, but maybe we can take a small bite on a couple of points before we attack the action as a whole.
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That is part of the military protocol. You can't see it before those above you in the chain of command see it. It went out express mail and all unit Presidents should have it by today's mail.

Anyone wanting to have it e mailed to them send me a PM and I will shot it out.
Thanks to those of you who sent me the documents. Now have to sort through all of it.

Some how it make little sense to me to send 100 plus unit presidents this by express mail at a cost of probably hundreds of dollars when it could have been done electronically at near zero cost.

Oh well!
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Its all been purposely orchestrated. AOAI insertion rears its ugly head again, as the SOB Class A.
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Before I retire for the evening.....

I intend to ask for my units support to reject the change to Article I. This is the additional of the phrase "the Airstream RV Association"

My rational:
The membership of the WBCCI has in the past rejected a name change. This is in fact a name change.

This amendment can easily provide for the purposeful use of a the title "The Airstream RV Association" as a full, sole, and proper title.

This was not the previous wish of the club, and I'm fairly sure t it is not the wish of my unit.

I look forward to discussion.
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