WBCCI MOHO Poll

[wkerfoot]

Wayne,

Thank you,

Bill

[myboyburt]

"Live Airstream or Die"!


Perfect. Thanks for writing the letter Wayne.

The IBT will also be receiving a letter from member #7032 expressing my belief that the only way for the WBCCI to survive (and grow) is to stay an Airstream only club.

[wheel interested]

"Live Airstream or Die!" I want a flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There we go--- a no SOBs motorcade into International.

Great letter.

[dufferin]

ok my idea was already on air.
it's been a while I didn't read all the thread, and now that I did I figure out that I didn't bring anything new. Sorry about that.

[WALLY 54]

Originally Posted by dufferin

ok my idea was already on air.
it's been a while I didn't read all the thread, and now that I did I figure out that I didn't bring anything new. Sorry about that.

Don't worry about not brining something new... you are bringing up and working through a lot of the very same thoughts that we have all been struggling with! And those of us who feel the same way can appreciate how you feel.

Now that you have a sense of what is going on with this ammendment work with your Unit and airstreamers you meet along the way to let them know how crazy this idea is. And spread the word to those who don't know that this is happening. This will help. You can get more information at SaveWally.org.



VOTE NO on the entire International slate when it comes to your unit in April (THIS MONTH). They're going to win anyway -- might as well make them sit through a 45 minute roll call and let them hear YOUR voice. Especially if you won't be in Perry! (If they get in through another club-wide unanimous YES election they're just going to fumble around and find another disaster for '08. When is enough, enough?)

[dufferin]

Minnie,
I think the way they think is simply to put a bucket under the leak but nothing is done to fix the leak.
And WBCCI being a non brand club will put it in competition with SamClub, Escapee and I had some of the publications from those and I tell you there's no way for WBCCI to keep up with what they do provide.

[Minnie's Mate]

There are, IMHO, several things that need to be updated in WBCCI. This month's "editorial" in the Blue Beret states that a new member, or anyone as far as that goes, must start a 14 year process to work their way up the ranks to the IBT. That in itself turns off most of us. Once we retire, who really wants to spend 14 years to get to the point of the IBT level. That's why they are all in their mid-70's and up. Those of us that still work can't participate in the upper level because of the amount of travel that is required each year. I don't know how other clubs are run, whether with mostly volunteers or with all paid staff or what level of combination of the two, but the WBCCI system needs to be updated. There needs to be more to appeal to the middle-aged members (like me) and prospective members that are younger in order to get them to join and to keep us middle-aged folk in the club.

I know, we've heard it all before. But apparently the IBT isn't listening. They want to know why members are quiting or new Airstreamers aren't joining. They should be asking what are they (WBCCI) doing wrong, not what the drop outs and never joiners are doing wrong! They should be asking what's the problem with the club, not the problem with the non-members. How do they fix the club, not the non-members...etc. etc. etc. You get the picture.

Allowing non-Airstream products in the WBCCI isn't the answer and the chart at the top of this page illustrates this. The WBCCI has a big ole pot of money sitting in their coffers, why don't they spend some of it on a consultant to do some strategic planning on how to survive when other clubs are experiencing a decline in membership just like the WBCCI is and how they can attract new members and retain existing members and how to redesign itself to become a great club again where strife and in-bitting and bickering are not what the club is known for.

Once again, stepping down from the soap box.

[ZoominC6]

Does the system perpetuate failure?

Do the 'Seniors' (I think I am one) really think excluding SOBs will lead to failure of the club?

Will excluding SOBs make it a NEW club?

I'm a new member but I SERIOUSLY DOUBT the club will go away with exclusion of the SOBs. Membership may stay in decline for a while; however, younger blood, with fresher and new ideas like I've heard expressed in our Forum cannot help but improve on a great old club.

I get depressed just reading the "One Sided" messages in the Blue Beret.
It seems that I've seen all that stuff before when the leadership is overwhelmingly "Gray" (I think I am one) whichever the organization whether it be a church, a car club, a service club or whatever.

I can somehow imagine the National Convention with the Seniors riding around on little motorbikes shouting orders through bullhorns .

I'm new to the club, I'm a gray Senior, I'm listening to the new ideas and I'm staying in for the better; however, I'd have to vote "NO" to SOBs. It's an Airstream Club for goodness sakes! I try to remember that it's all about the camping AND the new friendships made through a common interest in our Airstreams, not our Monacos, Prevosts or whatever!

I've tried not to rant but finally had to let it go. Sorry.

HAPPY TRAILS

[Buttercup]

WOW! I have to say that I think this is one of the best responses to this poll. This is not a young against old issue and I am glad to hear somebody say that some younger blood might be in order. In this case I think that some research into all aspects of the issue should have been performed BEFORE making this propisition. I think it is quite evident that the IBT did not do that in this case.

Originally Posted by ZoominC6

Does the system perpetuate failure?

Do the 'Seniors' (I think I am one) really think excluding SOBs will lead to failure of the club?

Will excluding SOBs make it a NEW club?

I'm a new member but I SERIOUSLY DOUBT the club will go away with exclusion of the SOBs. Membership may stay in decline for a while; however, younger blood, with fresher and new ideas like I've heard expressed in our Forum cannot help but improve on a great old club.

I get depressed just reading the "One Sided" messages in the Blue Beret.
It seems that I've seen all that stuff before when the leadership is overwhelmingly "Gray" (I think I am one) whichever the organization whether it be a church, a car club, a service club or whatever.

I can somehow imagine the National Convention with the Seniors riding around on little motorbikes shouting orders through bullhorns .

I'm new to the club, I'm a gray Senior, I'm listening to the new ideas and I'm staying in for the better; however, I'd have to vote "NO" to SOBs. It's an Airstream Club for goodness sakes! I try to remember that it's all about the camping AND the new friendships made through a common interest in our Airstreams, not our Monacos, Prevosts or whatever!

I've tried not to rant but finally had to let it go. Sorry.

HAPPY TRAILS

[jcanavera]

Originally Posted by Minnie's Mate

I know, we've heard it all before. But apparently the IBT isn't listening. They want to know why members are quiting or new Airstreamers aren't joining. They should be asking what are they (WBCCI) doing wrong, not what the drop outs and never joiners are doing wrong! They should be asking what's the problem with the club, not the problem with the non-members. How do they fix the club, not the non-members...etc. etc. etc. You get the picture.

Yep, this is a subject that we broached all the way back when in 2001 when free memberships were given to new owners. IBT ended it when they determined that the retention rate wasn't good enough. Then they put a big survey in the Blue Beret. Problem was they never went after the folks who left after their first year to see why they didn't stay. It was always asking the current membership, which surmounts to preaching to the choir.

Jack

[jcanavera]

Originally Posted by Minnie's Mate

There are, IMHO, several things that need to be updated in WBCCI. This month's "editorial" in the Blue Beret states that a new member, or anyone as far as that goes, must start a 14 year process to work their way up the ranks to the IBT. That in itself turns off most of us.

That in itself perpetuates the staleness in the organization. It's much like our Congress that seems to take energetic folks into its ranks only to turn them into political prostitutes. There are stories that have been told in some threads about some officers who were out of box folks who found that the process only rewards those who don't make waves. So even if you have the gumption to want to make a difference, understand that the system has a way of protecting it's own and that if you don't play the game, you probably won't get any further than the top of your own unit.

Jack

[Cracker]

Originally Posted by jcanavera

That in itself perpetuates the staleness in the organization. It's much like our Congress that seems to take energetic folks into its ranks only to turn them into political prostitutes. There are stories that have been told in some threads about some officers who were out of box folks who found that the process only rewards those who don't make waves. So even if you have the gumption to want to make a difference, understand that the system has a way of protecting it's own and that if you don't play the game, you probably won't get any further than the top of your own unit.

Jack

Well, that does it! I was struggling with the decision to run for office in the WBCCI or the Presidency of the United States! Since the latter is far more obtainable I've now made my decision. Cracker for President!

[azflycaster]

For what it is worth, the 1VP (next prez) has only been a member for 10 years....

[jcanavera]

If you follow the ranks it should take you about 12 years to rise to the top. 4 years at the local side, 4 at the regional and 4 at the International side. The first VP is a little ahead of schedule but usually its because of a jump at the local or regional level. I know we've had a couple of officers who didn't progress due to health or other reasons. In that case everybody below that person makes two jumps rather than one on the progression path.

Jack