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Old 03-29-2013, 09:19 PM   #43
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:47 AM   #44
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I recently attended my first Unit rally. One of the of the wall statements I heard from one of the other members was hopefully the MoHo issue will pass this year. I let my feelings on the subject be known (I am against) and was soundly ganged up on by a bunch of the others sitting around the table. Their logic was that it was the only way to save the club. Attending were 15 Airstreams, 4 MoHos and 11 travel trailers. I am 62 and was at least 20 years younger than most the other attending members. I am still debating if I will be attending any more events with this bunch as we seem to have so little in common not just over the MoHo issue but several other things that happened over the long weekend.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #45
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I recently attended my first Unit rally. One of the of the wall statements I heard from one of the other members was hopefully the MoHo issue will pass this year. I let my feelings on the subject be known (I am against) and was soundly ganged up on by a bunch of the others sitting around the table. Their logic was that it was the only way to save the club. Attending were 15 Airstreams, 4 MoHos and 11 travel trailers. I am 62 and was at least 20 years younger than most the other attending members. I am still debating if I will be attending any more events with this bunch as we seem to have so little in common not just over the MoHo issue but several other things that happened over the long weekend.
I don't know which unit you're referring to, but given your location I can make a guess. There are plenty of other units in Region 6 that have different opinions than your unit's. Give one of them a try. Greater New Orleans Unit has a rally planned for the weekend of 18-21 April, the Angola Prison Rodeo Rally, but I don't know if they're fully booked yet. The campground we're staying at only has 18 campsites, and the unit officers blocked out 14 of them. Even if the logistics don't work out for that, you can also attend our unit luncheon that will be held Saturday, April 6th in Slidell, LA. That would at least let you sound out some of the members to see if we're a more congenial bunch.

You wouldn't even be the youngster of the bunch. I'm not quite 55, so that dubious honor falls to me.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:16 AM   #46
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After giving this issue way too much thought I've come to realize the solution is simple. All you have to do is buy a Bambi, hitch it to the back of your TV (Prevost, Bluebird, Winnebago, whatever) and you're in.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:34 AM   #47
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After giving this issue way too much thought I've come to realize the solution is simple. All you have to do is buy a Bambi, hitch it to the back of your TV (Prevost, Bluebird, Winnebago, whatever) and you're in.
Then where would they hitch their toad? If you have a Thor class A, you've practically required to have a toad that's worth at least 20% of the price of your RV. Anything else just isn't highfalutin' enough to impress the campground neighbors.

Side note, even with my dinky little Airstream Class B, I have a toad that's worth about 20% of what I paid for the RV. But since it's only a Class B, that's lowfallutin' enough to not impress anybody.
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Then where would they hitch their toad? If you have a Thor class A, you've practically required to have a toad that's worth at least 20% of the price of your RV. Anything else just isn't highfalutin' enough to impress the campground neighbors.
Behind the toad. It would be Class A, Escalade, Airstream. Things would get a bit harder if you wanted a boat.
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I recently attended my first Unit rally. One of the of the wall statements I heard from one of the other members was hopefully the MoHo issue will pass this year. I let my feelings on the subject be known (I am against) and was soundly ganged up on by a bunch of the others sitting around the table. Their logic was that it was the only way to save the club. Attending were 15 Airstreams, 4 MoHos and 11 travel trailers. I am 62 and was at least 20 years younger than most the other attending members. I am still debating if I will be attending any more events with this bunch as we seem to have so little in common not just over the MoHo issue but several other things that happened over the long weekend.
This is what we helping-profession folks would call resolution of "cognitive dissonance"....a shift in values, beliefs, cognitions, etc., to resolve two opposing and mutually inconsistent beliefs.

If maintaining the exclusivity of an Airstream-only club requires internal changes by the older, upper echelon in order to bring in and hold on to new generations of Airstreamers...... and some of these upper echelon want non-Airstream motorhomes....voila!.....problem solved.

Forget about those younger Airstreamers, recruit a new and different membership base of non-Airstreams and change the nature of the club.

Pounding the drum and repeating the new mantra...........onward they go.

And, oh-so-very bureaucratic.


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Old 03-30-2013, 11:37 AM   #50
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What I worry about is that I have heard rumors in the past that if this amendment passes, both the vintage people and classic AS club members will leave WBCCI. So how will that help increase membership?
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:39 AM   #51
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After giving this issue way too much thought I've come to realize the solution is simple. All you have to do is buy a Bambi, hitch it to the back of your TV (Prevost, Bluebird, Winnebago, whatever) and you're in.
The solution is easy—your staff drives the MH and tows the Bambi with your Lamborghini or Ferrari while you fly to the next campground in your private jet.

I think it is a real problem for people to have to quit a club because their MH is wearing out even though they've put a lot of work into the club. I have sympathy for those people, but it is an Airstream club. Of course, the expense of buying a new Thor unit might make it economically feasible to have their old Airstream upgraded, but maybe they haven't thought of that. New thinking seems to be hard for them. But after they've driven enough people out of the club, they may win an election on this. They win everything else, so why shouldn't they think they will eventually win this one.

After that, they can do like some "resort" campgrounds and limit the club only to members with RVs that are no more than 10 years old. And then, they can limit club members to those over 70 because only septuagenarians have enough experience. That'll help clean out the riffraff.

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Old 03-30-2013, 03:24 PM   #52
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This whole issue has been mismanaged entirely. It wouldl not be an issue if it had been proposed by one of us peons. Our issues go to deaf ears. If only 7-8% of the entire club want to open it up to Thor why is it an issue. Whatever the issue, it should benefit the entire club. That should be the prerequisit, it should benefit the entire club, if not is does not, it is dead. Period and permanently.

Another thought, how many of those moho's are held by elders over 70 and how many of those should not be driving in the first place, moreless a giant moho. I suggest they get a class B, they will be safer and still be able to be in the club.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:52 PM   #53
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In my opinion, neither the VAC or the CAC as intra clubs will leave the WBCCI. However, many members of both intra clubs may leave.

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Old 03-30-2013, 04:09 PM   #54
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Many have already left and joined TAC and other clubs over past and continueing issues. I have been to a couple of TAC rallys and left looking forward to the next. No politics, in fighting or other negative issues. It was all about fun. I can not say that about my first and only WBCCI rally.
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Politics in the WBCCI??

The politics in the WBCCI is nothing now compared to what in was during the SaveWally days, Name Change, first time MOHO vote, etc.... and the cast of people who did everything they could to keep the WBCCI from being called "Airstream whatever". People were kicked out of the club Leo G, Bob T, etc... grievances filed, we're talking shirts printed up, pens, stickers, people running from the floor for the IBT, the whole nine yards. You had IBT guys yelling at folks at Perry, EC7 and IBT telling the VAC they needed to calm down, it was some of the best entertainment money could buy.

Bottom line is this, the WBCCI had the best chance in the world to grow the club back in the early-mid 2000's with the Vintage craze that hit. You had a bunch of really smart people with some great ideas to move the club into a growth phase. Well, the same ones that told those folks to get lost are still the same ones trying to get THOR products into the club.

Still a member, just don't care to fight anymore! Though I do miss some of the posting from the old cast of folks from the SW gang they made the politics fun.

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Paul,

Does your popcorn machine still work? If not, mine does and we can watch and reminisce.

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The politics in the WBCCI is nothing now compared to what in was during the SaveWally days, Name Change, first time MOHO vote, etc.... and the cast of people who did everything they could to keep the WBCCI from being called "Airstream whatever". People were kicked out of the club Leo G, Bob T, etc... grievances filed, we're talking shirts printed up, pens, stickers, people running from the floor for the IBT, the whole nine yards. You had IBT guys yelling at folks at Perry, EC7 and IBT telling the VAC they needed to calm down, it was some of the best entertainment money could buy.

Bottom line is this, the WBCCI had the best chance in the world to grow the club back in the early-mid 2000's with the Vintage craze that hit. You had a bunch of really smart people with some great ideas to move the club into a growth phase. Well, the same ones that told those folks to get lost are still the same ones trying to get THOR products into the club.

Still a member, just don't care to fight anymore! Though I do miss some of the posting from the old cast of folks from the SW gang they made the politics fun.

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