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Old 01-02-2011, 09:21 AM   #113
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The difference is this:

For a mere member to try and create change in the WBCCI requires them to create a motion, get their unit to vote on it, then ask the Region Officer to put it before the rest of the Region for a vote (which he/she can deny if the wish) it then goes before all the units in that Region for a vote, after it passes all the Units within that Region it then goes back to the Region Officer for an OK (which he/she can deny if they wish) before it’s put before the IBT, they then have their Constitution guy/gal look it over (which they can reject) as a motion to be voted on by the IBT (if it changes the By-Laws or the WBCCI membership as a whole (if it changes the constitution).

Now let’s look at what it takes for a IBT member to make changes in the WBCCI.

One of them thinks something should be changed. They can write a motion to be put before the IBT for a vote (Changes to By-Laws) or the WBCCI membership for a vote (Changes in the Constitution). Sometimes they may even create a “committee” to first study the issue (already telling that committee what the out come of their study should be) before it’s placed before the IBT or membership for a vote (think MOHO 2007, Name Change, etc..)

And some ask why the mere membership has a problem with trying to make changes.

Don’t believe me, read your WBCCI Constitution and By-Laws people, it’s all there!
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:57 AM   #114
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...For a mere member to try and create change in the WBCCI requires them to create a motion, get their unit to vote on it, then ask the Region Officer to put it before the rest of the Region for a vote (which he/she can deny if the wish) it then goes before all the units in that Region for a vote, after it passes all the Units within that Region it then goes back to the Region Officer for an OK (which he/she can deny if they wish) before it’s put before the IBT, they then have their Constitution guy/gal look it over (which they can reject) as a motion to be voted on by the IBT (if it changes the By-Laws or the WBCCI membership as a whole (if it changes the constitution).
Ok, I looked and was unable to find the provision indicating that a proposal made in this way must be approved by the IBT. What it does say is this:
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When two-thirds of the club's chartered Units have ratified the proposed amendment(s) by majority votes according to their Constitution and Bylaws and the Unit Presidents have so certified to Headquarters, such amendment(s) shall be deemed to be adopted.
This is from the Blue Book, Article XVI, Section 1.


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Old 01-02-2011, 12:01 PM   #115
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Forrest's Motion to amend was ratified by Region 11 and letters of certification were sent to WBCCI HQ in Jackson Center, OH this past October.

After a motion gets reviewed and commented on by the Constitution and Bylaws Committee, a letter and a copy of the motion is supposed to be sent to your Unit Presidents.

In posts #108 and #112, Coloradobus indicates that the chairman of the Constitution and Bylaws Committee will not be "commenting" anytime soon. "Mr Shafer's committee spells out that our Unit 024 didn't follow procedures."

A motion submitted by Region 11 President Dan Neumarkel is now on the Mid-Winter agenda demanding that the IBT follow the directives of Article IX of the Constitution to instruct Mr. Shafer's committee to "comment" (write a report) to HQ by March 30, 2011.

The issue is within Article XVI, sections 1, 2, and 3 of the Constitution.

Forrest's motion is going the section 2 route, NOT the section 1 route.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:45 PM   #116
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I'm sure you'll be satisfied with the new bylaws, if passed.
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Are the new bylaws on the agenda for this up coming mid winter meeting?

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I'm sure you'll be satisfied with the new bylaws, if passed.
Bob!

Just the man we need to hear from!

At this time the Mid Winter IBT agenda posted on the WBCCI web site only list 5 motions, and the report of the Constitution and Bylaws Committee is absent.

Can you tell us when this report will be published, and/or reveal the proposed bylaw amendments?

Or are those matters so sensitive they must be restricted to insiders such as yourself?
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Bad info by me above.

Forrest's motion is going the Article XVI, Section 1 route.

This motion to amend the Constitution is intended for the membership of a unit to vote on and not the IBT or the Delegates at their Annual Meeting.

My apologies for the confusion.
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There are no amendments it was re-written
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OK, will the re-written bylaws be on the agenda for approval or whatever the IBT does?

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There are no amendments it was re-written
Sounds like the proposed rewritten bylaws ought to be published well in advance of the IBT meeting so everyone has a chance to read them and comment to their region officers who are being asked to approve them.

Otherwise it would be like Congress voting on 2,000 page bills that nobody had a chance to read.
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The IBT will not be deciding the revised bylaws so no need to talk to the region officers/presidents yet.

the bylaws are going before the Exec committee,
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What is the next step after the executive committee?

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The IBT will not be deciding the revised bylaws so no need to talk to the region officers/presidents yet.

the bylaws are going before the Exec committee,
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Don't we all just love how a little information is dribbled out, creating a "stay tuned to this channel" mystique?

Just like the lawsuit..."just wait until you see this!...."

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