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Old 04-25-2012, 09:26 AM   #1037
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You misread my meaning. More people would leave if the motion is passed than would stay if not. It is an AS club!!. Exclusive of other brands.!! jim
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:28 AM   #1038
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The current amendment as proposed would allow life members to remain in the club and be able to vote and hold office.

In the meantime we have almost 600 members that are NOT allowed to vote or hold office and they own Airstreams.
They are called Members at Large.

Other compromises have been offered and might be acceptable but the proposed amendment is not.

It is after all an Airstream club
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I understand it's an AS Club - but that doesn't explain why exclusiveness is so important to certain members. I only know of two constants in the world, 'Change' and 'Death'.

I agree that the moho proposal should not allow non-AS owners voting privileges there should be a price to pay for not owning an AS...
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Let's look at this a different way. I belong to the Mustang Club of America. This club like the WBCCI is a brand identity group. I have a friend who belongs to the Thunderbird club. Unfortunately, Ford no longer sees fit to build new Thunderbirds, but my friend wants a new one. Since that isn't an option, he sends in a motion that all life members of the club should be able to buy another for product and remain full members of the Thunderbird club. The motion passes and he with great glee purchases a Ford minivan which he proudly drives to the Thunderbird club meetings and tells all the members who own old Thunderbirds how great his new van is. Remember I am still out here with my Mustang which is a Ford, but definitely not a Thunderbird. My buddy wishes I was in the Thunderbird club with him, so he sends in another resolution to allow any Ford product into the Thunderbird club even if you have never been a Thunderbird owner or previous club member.......now it is just a Ford club.

This is what everyone is concerned about with the MoHo amendment and the WBCCI. One exception will turn into the proverbial camels nose in the tent. Soon it won't be an Airstream club, but a Thor club followed by an RV club. I joined to belong to a brand specific club with a rich heritage and love of the Airstream. I am not interested in just another camping club. (I all ready belong to a couple of those and don't need another which would no longer serve a unique purpose)
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I agree that the moho proposal should not allow non-AS owners voting privileges there should be a price to pay for not owning an AS...

There is a price to pay for not owning an Airstream

It is not being able to belong to an Airstream club.
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".... the WBCCI is a brand identity group..."

this is really the entire problem in a nutshell.

is we is, or is we ain't an AS club! everything else is just add-on.

i say we is - and keep it that way!

aviator, thank you for your well done post.

and amen!
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Let's look at this a different way. I belong to the Mustang Club of America. This club like the WBCCI is a brand identity group. I have a friend who belongs to the Thunderbird club. Unfortunately, Ford no longer sees fit to build new Thunderbirds, but my friend wants a new one. Since that isn't an option, he sends in a motion that all life members of the club should be able to buy another for product and remain full members of the Thunderbird club. The motion passes and he with great glee purchases a Ford minivan which he proudly drives to the Thunderbird club meetings and tells all the members who own old Thunderbirds how great his new van is. Remember I am still out here with my Mustang which is a Ford, but definitely not a Thunderbird. My buddy wishes I was in the Thunderbird club with him, so he sends in another resolution to allow any Ford product into the Thunderbird club even if you have never been a Thunderbird owner or previous club member.......now it is just a Ford club.
It is amazing how clear the issue is when you put a name like Ford on it.
I can just see the Vintage Mustang owners when an old Falcon or even a fully restored model T pulled into a rally and wanted to run for the Presidency. I think more would leave than would stay.
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Thank you for the kind words.

Affinity clubs have a place in this world. They are not elitist, nor snobby. They are just groups of people surrounding a common brand often in support of that brand. As an example, I will use my Mustang Club affiliation again. Some of you may remember the Ford Probe of the late '80s. That was supposed to be the replacement for the for Mustang (yes, I know what could Ford have been thinking a front wheel drive four cylinder instead of a rear wheel drive V-8???). When the MCA and other Mustang enthusiasts heard this, there was a great uprising including many, many letters to Ford leadership. The "Fox Body" Mustang was instead introduced in 1987, and the Probe became what it was.

The WBCCI serves a similar purpose to the Airstream and Thor Industries. We, collectively, are the enthusiast group. We encourage others to purchase Airstream both new and used. We help each other both in restoration of vintage, and modification of all models. We harangue Airstream on quality and options for current and future production. Remove the core exclusivity of Airstream from the WBCCI, and I fear that camaraderie will dissipate. Airstream exclusivity is what differentiates the WBCCI from a Thor owners group, or using the example from my previous post the Thunderbird Club from the Ford owners group (both exist).
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:21 PM   #1046
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You are correct. I had forgotten the '79-'86 square headlight version. By 1986 sales were dropping hence the Probe idea. The 1987 was a remodel with the introduction of fuel injection in the 302ci, and the big rear wing and lower valances in the 1987GT. When I first took delivery of mine, people stopped to ask what it was as the styling was significantly different in the GT trim package.

Now back to your original thread of the MoHo issue.
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I just saw a rather exclusive looking motorhome on the internet today. I am not sure if the Lifetime members will go quite this posh but if the IBT does vote this in I can only imagine the rally venue and prices might also become very exclusive. You can kiss 3amp service bye bye.










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It looks like a vaccuum cleaner!
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That was not supposed to be posted until after the vote. It may upset some members to see what reality will look like.
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