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Old 10-16-2011, 01:38 AM   #617
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Just a note. The Oregon unit voted the motorhome motion down. We will vote 117 no votes at International this Summer.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:36 AM   #618
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Just a note. The Oregon unit voted the motorhome motion down. We will vote 117 no votes at International this Summer.

Is there an an actual motion out there on the issue??
If so can some one send me a copy??

I thought all there was so far is a committee recommendation .

If there is a need to vote I want to be sure our unit is aware of it, and hopefully votes as Oregon did.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:59 PM   #619
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The motion was made, it will be voted on by the delegates in June.
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The delegates won't vote unless it is sent to the units for discussion. The proposal has NOT been sent as of October 8.
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Hey maybe they'll forget to send it out!

They have until spring I think April 1
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So we voted to soon. We had a lively discussion with all of it against Thor motor homes. From asking when Airstream was owned by Bertrices foods could we be members if we brought Best Foods Mayonnaise. Our members want to keep the WBCCI an Airstream club, that is why they joined.
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Per the Region 5 President at this weekend's rally, the IBT has not made a firm amendment yet but is likely to issue one at their January meeting. This will be forwarded to the units in April for the units to vote on. We had a brief discussion at our business meeting and I expressed my opposition to it. There were 3 motorhomes at the rally and 12 trailers. I think I can convince the members at the spring rally that it is a bad idea. Setting up a special class of membership that does not have to obey the "Airstream" criteria is not sensible.

However, special interest groups were able to approve the Prohibition amendment and impose their will on the total US population for 13 years. The "drys" in WBCCI still have the no alcohol rule in the club's rules, although Wally was a drinker.

Do not put anything past what they may try. We need make sure all the members see the downsides in the amendment to make sure they do not sneak it through. Apathy is on their side and they control the Blue Beret.
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The "drys" in WBCCI still have the no alcohol rule in the club's rules, although Wally was a drinker.
I have never seen any mention of this in the club's constitution or bylaws. It may exist at some local levels, but I can assure you it does not exist for all units.

I have found that rallies that are held at county fairgrounds and other such locations may restrict the consumption of alcohol, but this is a restriction put in place because of the rules of the fairgrounds.
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So we voted to soon. We had a lively discussion with all of it against Thor motor homes. From asking when Airstream was owned by Bertrices foods could we be members if we brought Best Foods Mayonnaise. Our members want to keep the WBCCI an Airstream club, that is why they joined.
Maybe the Oregon vote should be regarded as the first WARNING shot. Of course the idea of them backing off on bringing forward the motion would be wish full thinking
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:02 AM   #626
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Per the Region 5 President at this weekend's rally, the IBT has not made a firm amendment yet but is likely to issue one at their January meeting. This will be forwarded to the units in April for the units to vote on. We had a brief discussion at our business meeting and I expressed my opposition to it. There were 3 motorhomes at the rally and 12 trailers. I think I can convince the members at the spring rally that it is a bad idea. Setting up a special class of membership that does not have to obey the "Airstream" criteria is not sensible.

However, special interest groups were able to approve the Prohibition amendment and impose their will on the total US population for 13 years. The "drys" in WBCCI still have the no alcohol rule in the club's rules, although Wally was a drinker.

Do not put anything past what they may try. We need make sure all the members see the downsides in the amendment to make sure they do not sneak it through. Apathy is on their side and they control the Blue Beret.
Thanks for the update Dwight. I seem to remember now from the last simulcast that they said it was subject to amendment along the way. I expect they will delay the information as late as absolutely possible, as they have done in past stratagem and maybe even after the April 1 deadline. It isn't as if they could be held accountable for any off the cuff variance as we well know. I agree that apathy is and has always been on their side. Controlling the Blue Beret content, aggressive censoring then ultimately shutting down the members forum, and eliminating or restricting those that are most focal for change in representation, equality and fairness, has all worked to their advantage, with the exception of declining membership of the quantity while refining and defining the quality members that endure. My unit has had no vote or discussion nor meeting scheduled, only a recent call for dues. I am not holding out a lot of hope that the majority of members care what the IBT does. I think most are merely resigned to accept or merely ignore leaderships' mandates, just as if no one ever even tried to make a difference, yeah whipped.
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Perhaps only when the "silent or apathetic" end up parking next to a NON-Airstream Class A at a rally will they begin to cry. "Why was I not informed??" Stuff like this had happened before!!
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Within the club leadership, at all levels, is responsible for who gets informed and how. If the top leadership would use "Constant Contact" more, then we would not need to worry about whether the word gets filtered out by the intermediate Region and local leaders as it it is being passed down the food chain. The hard copy, Blue Beret, is controlled by top level leaders and they will publish only what they want to get out, but gets to all members, who are in a fixed location or get their forth class mail forwarded.
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Are we going to continue to talk to ourselves or are we going to do something?

There are some 25 or 30 members posting to this thread all of which have stated their convictions against the presence of none Airstream MH in the Club. If we continue at this rate we are doing no more than spinning our wheels.

If there is not a concerted effort beyond what has been done so far we have all but thrown in the towel. Having taken a lot of criticism for my past efforts to curtain the actions of the Leadership I am not the one to organize the fight. However I do have the e mail list for 2/3 of the membership and I am willing to work with anyone interested in leading the assault.

It is time to start to inform the general membership on this issue and the Denver Amendment because all too many unit officers are not.

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I think it would be too early to do a concerted effort on the MoHo issue. Once there is a motion that is to go before the delegates then it is time for that effort. I suspect that motion will likely appear at the mid winter meeting.

The constitutional amendment is the hot item right now.
If your unit has not brought it up ASK WHY.
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