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Old 07-11-2011, 02:55 PM   #463
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Forrest an interesting picture, but somewhat misleading.

As all RVs that frequent Wal Mart as an overnight spot are acutely aware there is a growing problem of the larger MH pulling the dump valve and or setting their trash on the parking lot just before they leave.

While your picture is a joke I don't consider the increasing actions of the MH crowd a joke or an image that RVs should support.
Misleading? Huh? It doesn't have anything to do with WalMart. Where do you get that?

In 2006 the Int'l rally was in Salem, Oregon, and everyone was given dire warnings to not put wash water or any kind of water for that matter on the ground there. I witnessed a distraught woman talking to IP Jim Franklin. Her husband was in poor health but she hitched up and drove the two of them to the rally because they'd never missed one. They were long time members. Until then, her husband had taken care of driving, hitching and setting up. But with his poor health, those duties fell to her. In a very real sense she was a first timer, and she made a mistake. She pulled the dump valve on their trailer and of course put some nasty water on the ground. She was terribly upset, embarassed and was asking Franklin what she should do. Well, he told her to leave the rally. That was his answer. Naturally, she was devasted.

Fortunately, one of the VP's - I don't remember which one - took her aside and comforted her and assured her he'd have it taken care of and that she could stay. This was just one of the things I witnessed and experienced at that International that were very disturbing to me.

The EC7 were camped almost entirely in motorhomes that had two to four times the holding capacity of vintage trailers. With that mindset, they didn't see any reason why the honey wagon should pump us out any more often than every four days.

There was a dump station available, but as usual it was sometimes inaccessible. Anyway, that is the purpose of the commentary in the cartoon - the motorhome mindset versus the needs of trailers. So, the trailer (with a red #1 on it - now guess whose number that is) is taking a leak on you know who.

But seriously, it's sad that I have to explain this to you, and all the humor is probably lost in the explaining.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:01 PM   #464
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Well duuuuh! Is that why I never noticed any trailers? Oh, is that why thier name is Family Motorcoach Assn? That's kinda insulting friend. And you wonder why your membership is going in the tank.

Well, you quoted my posting which seems to have magically disappeared. Wonder how that happened.
No insult intended at all. Maybe you're being a bit defensive, and if I caused that I appologize. But pointing out the obvious is sometimes necessary.

I had nothing to do with your post disappearing.

I'm not worried about my membership going in the tank, cause I'm no longer a member.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:06 PM   #465
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In the spirit of trying to stay within the theme of this thread, I wrote to FMCA the following:

Hello,

I am hoping that the FMCA can clarify what a “motorhome lifestyle” is and/or how that lifestyle is different from a “trailering lifestyle.” I am a trailer owner and respect the FMCA restricting membership to only motorhome owners, but would like to know the FMCA viewpoint. For instance, why doesn’t the FMCA let travel trailer owners have a regular membership?

Best regards,

Forrest McClure


This was the response from FMCA:


Dear Mr. McClure,

Thank you for your email asking about "motorhome lifestyle." FMCA was formed in 1963 as an association of motorhome owners only. When the original members formed the association, the Bylaws they penned stated that membership would be limited to any Type/Class A, B, or C motorhome, or a bus conversion, that contains all of the conveniences of home (including cooking, sleeping, and permanent sanitary facilities). I believe they wanted to create a niche among this particular type of RVer.


At one time, people who owned trailers and fifth wheels were permitted to join as associate members. Somewhere along the line, apparently due to some of the benefits the Association had offered to members, this practice was discontinued. The current associate membership category is for former family members who no longer own a motorhome but want to stay involved in FMCA. So, it technically is possible for someone with a towable to be a member of FMCA, but only if they once owned a motorhome and qualified for full membership.


We all share the same passion and joy for the RV lifestyle. We also all learn from the many publications and Websites available to RV owners. Perhaps travel trailers and fifth wheels will be considered for membership in the future. In the meantime, we would invite you to subscribe to Family Motor Coaching magazine, widely recognized as a premier publication for the RV industry. We would be happy to provide a complimentary copy to you if you would like to provide a mailing address.


Take care.
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My comment on your picture had nothing to do with Airstreamers or Salem.

It was an observation of how apropos the actions of an increasing number of RVers in the larger MH are spoiling the image of RVing in general by actually doing what the picture displayed. If you have not yet been exposed to this level of arrogance you are lucky.
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i'm afraid many will miss the subtlety of the tx license plate -- i didn't!
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Many Vintage Airstreamers own multiple Airstreams.

If you want a motorhome fine. But if you want to attend WBCCI functions buy an Airstream solely for the purpose of attending Airstream events. Afterall, if you can afford a $300,000 +++ motorhome, you can certainly afford an additional Airstream.

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Many Vintage Airstreamers own multiple Airstreams.

If you want a motorhome fine. But if you want to attend WBCCI functions buy an Airstream solely for the purpose of attending Airstream events. Afterall, if you can afford a $300,000 +++ motorhome, you can certainly afford an additional Airstream.

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Great point. That is an easy solution! In fact how many PIPs or others can an Airstream trailer sleep after all? Perhaps we could even initiate a volunteer program to sponsor an SOB member and share Airstream lodging for rallies. It could be listed at very little printing cost to the club on a page or two following the campground and courtesy parking listings.
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Carol,

Sounds like a great idea. Now if you can only get them to agree to it, I'll buy that 36' Airstream "bunk house" trailer that was used by the Rail Road. My guess, you can fit at least four/five PIP's and their wife's in that thing and we'll be all set. We can have the Revision Committee re-write the Constitution to where it's the job of the current IP to pull it behind their MOHO.

If ones not enough, we will look for another and hook them together! It will look almost like a silver bullet train coming into the International Rally.

We can call it the "I PEE Express" because it will really p*ss them off!
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On a serious note, I was thinking about whether we as members should construct and propose a non-compete clause for leadership. It seems very much a conflict of interest for leadership to use their position, experience, knowlege and contacts in the club and the membership to compete with the club's own single brand identity for their own benefit. As our elected representatives they should be upholding the constitution, the club's tenets and working to accomplish members initatives and not working as a separate entity to create, of their own volition, for their own advantage. They have taken a sworn oath to uphold their duties to the club and its constitution as it is written and it is beyond the scope of their office to introduce change to better suit their own needs as leaders in abject opposition to the principals and general membership of this club. They are in violation of over reaching their jurisdiction and distorting assigned duties by utilizing club and business time and resources to consistently cause membership to defend itself against leadership's independent actions.
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I think it is interesting that the Thor diesel club does not seem to be the least bit interested in having Airstream motor homes in their club.

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In the meantime we have members clamoring to buy a Thor MH and be allowed to stay in our club
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Lost children with lots of money and no where to go.
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Maybe the ruling class are embarrassed or just plain tired of seeing thier previous Airstreams showing up in the vintage section...? If they buy a brand-x product they wont have to worry about being the "P.O." at the VAC happy hour.
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I emailed the membership lady of the THOR Diesel Club about Airstream Class A's joining, and have yet to hear a response. It has been two weeks, but she might be on the road.
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It is clear that Thor Diesel club is a Interclub of FMCA. The membership application specifically states that it does not welcome any Airstream Diesels. I guess, even Jims' luxury coaches are not good enough for them.
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