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Old 06-28-2011, 03:35 PM   #379
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Originally Posted by RickDavis View Post
What is so magical about letting a THOR motorhome into the club? Why not any motorhome ??
Why not any kind of recreational vehicle? What is more "Airstreamy" about a Class A than a Class C? or B, or a fifth wheel? And why can't everyone exercise the same options being considered for a small group who can't stay friends unless they belong in the club together, if we are to believe what we are being told?

They want it, they think they are entitled to it, and they think the constitution and club should be changed to let them have and do what they want. The votes have previously barred the change. The simple solution is just vote no...again. KISS. Oh and delegates don't quit your day job as representatives in exchange for direct member voting or the moho amendment may just be more likely to pass.

These are the same who sent Denco's motion to the way back against their own pledge to push it ahead promptly. What was the compromise there? Compromised, unable to function properly because of harmful treatment or exposure, that's it, I keep getting the two terms confused.


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Old 06-28-2011, 03:37 PM   #380
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Let ' em all in!!!

I really don't care anymore. Let every kind of Class A you can think be purchase by the MOHO crowd.. There are enough start-up Airstream groups around now that will fit the void where WBCCI left off for us Airstreamer Own-lees.

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Old 06-28-2011, 04:05 PM   #381
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You are being too narrow minded.

You should allow all brands of all RV types in. I want my fifth wheel to be allowed in. Why only allow Thor motorhomes. It just isn't fair.

The WBCCI is really just a social club. No need to discriminate against us non Airstream owners.

Come on - can't we all just be friends.
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:09 PM   #382
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WBCCI MoHo Issue

The seeds of fermentation and fomentation were planted in '92 with the nascent VAC, a group whose ideas about camping, the Wally philosophy, and disdain of rulebooks were antithetical to the ruling class. Nothing has really changed since then, and it won't. The Proletariats always win even with minor setbacks because the rules are theirs, the gold is theirs, the committees are theirs, the "elections" are theirs, and member-offered compromises are little more than a Clement Atlee approach to Hitler, "Peace in Our Time". Why is everyone so surprised at the third round of MoHo? I agree with Rick and Paul, but let's take this a step further and vote with the IBT to permit Thor coaches into the Wally Club with the proviso/quid pro quo of accepting vintage busses (yes, 2 esses) as well. Let's go for "Further," Ken Kesey's prize but with its original horn speakers mounted on the roof blaring rock with the constantly overdubbed "How was your stay-ay-ay in San Jose-ay-ay" duringthe International Rally, clouds of dope smoke emanating from the windows. Open up the bus pedigree to things older than 25 years of course. How about the Charlestown Chiefs ("Slap Shot") team bus with the axe holes in the sides or its fan bus with mooning females. Too outre, you say? Well then, the "Gauntlet" bus, the "Speed" bus, both GM Fishbowls qualify. Take some seats outs and throw a couple cots're camping. Take the Curtain! It's Theatre of the Absurd.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:58 PM   #383
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I'm with Jimmy. You're on the bus or you're off the bus! Have the meetings in Denver where there are hundreds of medical marijuana dispensaries. We are all old, have chronic pain and other ailments. Let's light up and mellow out.

Next come the Electric Kool Aid Acid Tests. Where's Jerry Garcia when we need him.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:29 AM   #384
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There is no need to compromise. No need to change. If it comes up for a vote, just vote it out again. I feel no obligation to old members who suddenly want to have an new motorhome and change the club rules to accomodate them. A compromise here is sorta like a mugger telling you to give him $100. when you say no, he says lets compromise for $50. If we do change, I would favor opening it to all units and expanding the caravan program based on an enlarged number of members.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:40 PM   #385
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If they do!!!

Ya think they'll want us??

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If they open it up to all units... we're re-joining!!

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Old 06-29-2011, 08:52 PM   #386
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And..if we let them in and then
what if Thor becomes part of lets say
Forest River
any other brand
Won't they ALL want in...
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:00 PM   #387
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When they all are in, then they can rename it the Good Sam Club.

But why would they want to be let in if the organization stays the same otherwise?

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Old 06-29-2011, 09:02 PM   #388
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:04 AM   #389
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Originally Posted by HowieE View Post
Those driving this barge are only interested in their self gratification and image of being above the MASSES.
There in one sentence is the prime reason for all this bickering. It began when the first Airstream Motorhomes were begrudgingly allowed into the WBCCI and it still lives.

We quit the group in disgust several years ago and have never looked back.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:21 AM   #390
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at what point would an AS club become just another RV club?

5th wheels? pop-ups? tents?

Does the wbcci want to be good sam?

as noted before, would you allow any GM car into a Corvette club? Does a Ford Explorer belong in the Mustang clug?

come on people! this is just NUTS!

we are either an AS club or we are not.

if the wbcci is just going to be another RV moho club for a bunch of 'trailer challenged' memebers - so be it. i, and a large bunch of others, will probably just bid a fond farewell and move on down the road.

we joined for the friends and fun not the rules, regulations and turmoil!

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Old 06-30-2011, 08:47 AM   #391
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Originally Posted by 65GT View Post
...Why doesn't the Good Sams membership go up in arms twice every year?...
This is, in part quite, simple: The Good Sam Club is outright owned and operated by the Affinity Group (and at a healthy profit). There are no such things as voting and voting rights.

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Old 06-30-2011, 01:26 PM   #392
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All on the same road--downhill. . .

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The bigger part is that those in charge (Good Sams) understand both their charter and their business model. That member satisfaction is paramount. You guarantee member satisfaction, you provide services that far outweigh your annual dues and you succeed.
Nevertheless, last time I attended a Good Sam rally, I was told that their attendance was also declining rapidly. . .

(And if anything, the average age of the attendees was older than that of WBCCI rallies!)

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