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Old 02-12-2008, 02:41 PM   #15
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who says they changed the "code"? just because they're selling polo shirts doesn't mean anything, other than "you can buy a polo shirt".

(though, I agree...they should; just sayin, I don't think they have).
Did they do an actual factual change? No.

Would the ability to dress casually in WBCCI apparel cause an accepted change? Yes.
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:49 PM   #16
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Hey if any one wants to give their blue Beret away I'll take it....

So I can wear it at my very first International Rally during the Concourse Judging. Either standing in front of my nicely restored vintage Trailer or my brand new Airstream paying respects to its history...
Sorry, I can't give mine away as I wear it with my best sweat pants and shirt during NEU business meetings.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:45 PM   #17
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interesting bit of paranoia here.

there is no 'dress code' for the WBCCI. it is rather difficult to change something that doesn't exist.

There are matters of respect. Respect for others. respect for your organization, respect for yourself. One way to show respect is in how you present yourself.

This generation is one of the few that has taken the 'up yours' method of expression to new heights in self presentation, even to the point of creating rules to flout where they don't exist to start with.

interesting paranoia.
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Old 02-12-2008, 04:24 PM   #18
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I just want to point out - in all fairness, I have never seen anyone dressed formally at a rally. All of the WB rallys I have been to have been very friendly casual affairs.
The closest I've come to seeing "formal" attire at a rally was at the International in Perry, GA. Whilst cruising around on my bike and taking lots of pictures around the fairground (as I'm prone to do) , I witnessed several club members having a good time serving what appeared to be martinis and other miscellaneous liquor drinks, under awnings atached to huge motorhomes. The men were wearing pleated pants, wing tips, and shirts with button down collars. One of the ladies had a dress and a blouse, but the others wore shorts and blouses. I hope my terminology is correct, as I'm no fashion expert. I thought it was pretty cool looking, something like an advertisement out of the 50's, but it was too dark for a picture. I pedalled back to my site attired in shorts, WDCU tee shirt, and flip-flops and had a beer with my neighbors.


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Old 02-12-2008, 04:48 PM   #19
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interesting bit of paranoia here.

there is no 'dress code' for the WBCCI. it is rather difficult to change something that doesn't exist.

There are matters of respect. Respect for others. respect for your organization, respect for yourself. One way to show respect is in how you present yourself.

This generation is one of the few that has taken the 'up yours' method of expression to new heights in self presentation, even to the point of creating rules to flout where they don't exist to start with.

interesting paranoia.
Not that you may have been addressing my post - I don't think I said there was any rule for dressing up or even a dress code - as in a mandatory uniform.
However - it is quite evident in those units that still up hold the "dress up" to portrait importance and professionalism when in office and during AGM's - I have seen it with me only little eyes..... I don't think it is made up at all.

It was and still is a matter of fashion and identification.

"This Generation" referring to??? Careful how you step their Bryan

As for Rules or Code - when something has been done for so long - they become the un written code of conduct - similar to the concept of a Right of Way - it is just there and when you try to mess with it - you will get people bucking it in the like fashion of "changing" rules.....

I don't see any paranoia here.....
I have seen your pics of your Rallies Bryan and you guys are so relaxed it is such a pleasure looking at your site and seeing what getting out and having fun is all about.....
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Sorry, I can't give mine away as I wear it with my best sweat pants and shirt during NEU business meetings.
Oh come on I'll give ya 50 bucks for it

And I am really glad to hear the the NEU are wearing clothes to their meetings phew that is a really good thing....
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Oh come on I'll give ya 50 bucks for it

And I am really glad to hear the the NEU are wearing clothes to their meetings phew that is a really good thing....
Tell me about it! Before we started wearing clothes we were losing new members in droves........
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:11 PM   #22
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interesting bit of paranoia here.

there is no 'dress code' for the WBCCI. it is rather difficult to change something that doesn't exist.

There are matters of respect. Respect for others. respect for your organization, respect for yourself. One way to show respect is in how you present yourself.

This generation is one of the few that has taken the 'up yours' method of expression to new heights in self presentation, even to the point of creating rules to flout where they don't exist to start with.

interesting paranoia.
As an alternate view.

Because of the societal changes of the "Hippy movement" Dress became more casual. Suits and ties have a place in business and formal events. Weddings, Funerals, Court.

The majority of people who were either young or born after the "Summer of Love" find no disrespect wearing business casual attire i.e. Polo shirts, slacks etc. in non formal events and especially if these are liesure events.

It's not an "Up yours" attitude. It's the acceptable social dress for this majority of society.

It's also part of the evolution of society. Remember your history books. At one point if you were not in tights and a powdered wig you were showing disrespect.

How this applies to our club is that a new and younger generation is in the ranks now and while they will follow some of the traditions of those that came before they like every other incoming generation will make changes to suit their views.

Seems that at this crossroad one group says "Change now" and another group says "Follow tradition." Both groups are wrong and both groups are right. In the middle somewhere the long time members and the newer ones can find common ground while presenting a desirable club to belong to for the swelling ranks of newer Airstream owners. If the club is perceived as moribound to new Airstream owners they simply won't join.

The irony here is that the generation that comes after this one will be demanding change also. Probably telling me that I need to be more formal. I'll decline but I'll encourage them to do what it is to keep the club viable thriving and inclusive.
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #23
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Oh come on I'll give ya 50 bucks for it
I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:24 PM   #24
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A point, pointed out, point taken Bryan, except for the up yours generation, LOL do I make that cut or am I too old? I think I was in the Pepsi generation though I drink Dr. Pepper now. I also do hope I didn't miss that summer of love. Redo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are we talking about when we say or hear dress code. Myself, I mean that I saw all the men with red jackets so I figured that was part of a dress code as I suspect wearing tuxedos is part of a dress code. Perhaps dress code is not the proper use of the term but I always thought it meant when someone else told you what to wear in an orgqnization. I have also seen the first lady and the other international Board wives wearing the same jacket as each other to be easily identifiable to the members. Now I have seen the officers and wives/or mates dressed in long dresses and jackets for the ceremonies in Lansing carrying flags off the buses and walking across the grounds and lining up for pictures and dressing for dinner, but that is just dressing up as opposed to all dressing alike.

I was hoping this thread with possible new dress code meant the end of pictures and IBT meetings with the jackets. That's what I thought. It just scares young and new members away I suspect to see the red (grey) panthers retired that a way. Or are those the Guardian Angels I am thinking of??? At any rate it just doesn't look like a camping/travel/enthusiasts type club. But then there are not alot of Wally's generation to lure into new membership. Keeping up with the times and not trying to make oneself conspicuously different from those you wish to reach is a sound plan.
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I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
But a new one wouldn't have that trampled, run over, dog chewed on it, been washed 102 times look to it like yours?
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Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
Yeah, but they're polyester!

They don't offer the cool wool ones like Wally wore any more. Although, they can be found on ebay occasionally ~ both vintage originals and "almost-as-good" new ones someone is making with the patches available from WBCCI.

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Yeah, but they're polyester!

They don't offer the cool wool ones like Wally wore any more. Although, they can be found on ebay occasionally ~ both vintage originals and "almost-as-good" new ones someone is making with the patches available from WBCCI.

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Yeah that is what I am talking about the wool ones....and if they come with friends - that is okay too....
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I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...

....and the shipping will be what say about $75.00
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