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02-12-2008, 03:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 25' Excella
Full Time
, Anywhere USA
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,708
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GT1963
Oh come on I'll give ya 50 bucks for it
And I am really glad to hear the the NEU are wearing clothes to their meetings phew that is a really good thing....
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Tell me about it! Before we started wearing clothes we were losing new members in droves........
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Michelle & Leon
New England Unit
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02-12-2008, 04:11 PM
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#22
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leipper
interesting bit of paranoia here.
there is no 'dress code' for the WBCCI. it is rather difficult to change something that doesn't exist.
There are matters of respect. Respect for others. respect for your organization, respect for yourself. One way to show respect is in how you present yourself.
This generation is one of the few that has taken the 'up yours' method of expression to new heights in self presentation, even to the point of creating rules to flout where they don't exist to start with.
interesting paranoia.
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As an alternate view.
Because of the societal changes of the "Hippy movement" Dress became more casual. Suits and ties have a place in business and formal events. Weddings, Funerals, Court.
The majority of people who were either young or born after the "Summer of Love" find no disrespect wearing business casual attire i.e. Polo shirts, slacks etc. in non formal events and especially if these are liesure events.
It's not an "Up yours" attitude. It's the acceptable social dress for this majority of society.
It's also part of the evolution of society. Remember your history books. At one point if you were not in tights and a powdered wig you were showing disrespect.
How this applies to our club is that a new and younger generation is in the ranks now and while they will follow some of the traditions of those that came before they like every other incoming generation will make changes to suit their views.
Seems that at this crossroad one group says "Change now" and another group says "Follow tradition." Both groups are wrong and both groups are right. In the middle somewhere the long time members and the newer ones can find common ground while presenting a desirable club to belong to for the swelling ranks of newer Airstream owners. If the club is perceived as moribound to new Airstream owners they simply won't join.
The irony here is that the generation that comes after this one will be demanding change also. Probably telling me that I need to be more formal. I'll decline but I'll encourage them to do what it is to keep the club viable thriving and inclusive.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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02-12-2008, 04:22 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GT1963
Oh come on I'll give ya 50 bucks for it
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I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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02-12-2008, 04:24 PM
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#24
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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A point, pointed out, point taken Bryan, except for the up yours generation, LOL do I make that cut or am I too old? I think I was in the Pepsi generation though I drink Dr. Pepper now. I also do hope I didn't miss that summer of love. Redo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What are we talking about when we say or hear dress code. Myself, I mean that I saw all the men with red jackets so I figured that was part of a dress code as I suspect wearing tuxedos is part of a dress code. Perhaps dress code is not the proper use of the term but I always thought it meant when someone else told you what to wear in an orgqnization. I have also seen the first lady and the other international Board wives wearing the same jacket as each other to be easily identifiable to the members. Now I have seen the officers and wives/or mates dressed in long dresses and jackets for the ceremonies in Lansing carrying flags off the buses and walking across the grounds and lining up for pictures and dressing for dinner, but that is just dressing up as opposed to all dressing alike.
I was hoping this thread with possible new dress code meant the end of pictures and IBT meetings with the jackets. That's what I thought. It just scares young and new members away I suspect to see the red (grey) panthers retired that a way. Or are those the Guardian Angels I am thinking of??? At any rate it just doesn't look like a camping/travel/enthusiasts type club. But then there are not alot of Wally's generation to lure into new membership. Keeping up with the times and not trying to make oneself conspicuously different from those you wish to reach is a sound plan.
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02-12-2008, 04:31 PM
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#25
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
, BC
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,790
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
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But a new one wouldn't have that trampled, run over, dog chewed on it, been washed 102 times look to it like yours?
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Barry & Donna
Life is short - so is the door on a '51 Flying Cloud (ouch)
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02-12-2008, 04:52 PM
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#26
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
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Yeah, but they're polyester!
They don't offer the cool wool ones like Wally wore any more. Al though, they can be found on ebay occasionally ~ both vintage originals and "almost-as-good" new ones someone is making with the patches available from WBCCI.
Shari
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02-12-2008, 07:48 PM
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#27
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Yeah, but they're polyester!
They don't offer the cool wool ones like Wally wore any more. Al though, they can be found on ebay occasionally ~ both vintage originals and "almost-as-good" new ones someone is making with the patches available from WBCCI.
Shari
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Yeah that is what I am talking about the wool ones....and if they come with friends - that is okay too....
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02-12-2008, 07:49 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goin camping
I'll sell you my for 50 bucks! As amatter of fact I'll throw in my wife's too. WOW a twofer deal! Course you could just email the head office and they'll send you a Beret and a bill for 8 bucks...
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....and the shipping will be what say about $75.00
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02-12-2008, 08:07 PM
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#29
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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HQ's shipping was about 2 bucks.
Mine is 37.50
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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02-12-2008, 08:16 PM
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#30
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,080
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Yeah, but they're polyester!
Shari
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And I think that might be the entire generational parting of the ways... over textiles really. There was the generation of miracle polyester ...
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02-13-2008, 05:55 PM
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#31
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
1959 22' Flying Cloud
Bowden
, West Virginia
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 42
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We may have some wool berets in our unsold inventory. They are too hot to wear in Texas. Tell me what size you need and I will see if the club treasurer can find your size.
Ken
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02-13-2008, 05:59 PM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grannyred
We may have some wool berets in our unsold inventory. They are too hot to wear in Texas. Tell me what size you need and I will see if the club treasurer can find your size.
Ken
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7 - 7 1/2
That is very kind of you Ken
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02-13-2008, 06:59 PM
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#33
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,849
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grannyred
We may have some wool berets in our unsold inventory. They are too hot to wear in Texas. Tell me what size you need and I will see if the club treasurer can find your size.
Ken
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Ken,
How are they sized?
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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02-13-2008, 11:26 PM
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#34
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grannyred
We may have some wool berets in our unsold inventory. They are too hot to wear in Texas. Tell me what size you need and I will see if the club treasurer can find your size.
Ken
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*Raising hand*
Um, If you have an extra large for my fat mellon can I get it please?
If you only have a large I can stretch it...
Milo
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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02-14-2008, 09:05 AM
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#35
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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If you want a wool felt beret, you can order Basque berets from various online sources. Most are black, but some makers still produce them in navy blue. If you have a good hat store where you live, they would likely stock them.
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Cameron & the Labradors, Kai & Samm
North Vancouver, BC
Live! Life's a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death! - Mame Dennis
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02-16-2008, 06:55 AM
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#36
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
1959 22' Flying Cloud
Bowden
, West Virginia
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 42
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Well, I heard back from our treasurer on the wool beret inventory. We have two small wool berets. The size is 21.5". I guess you must measure the circumference of your head. The cost will be $8 plus postage. If you need one of these berets, let me know.
Ken
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02-16-2008, 09:20 AM
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#37
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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The WDCU prides it's self in keeping up the club traditions. Our unit has very strict rules that were handed down from Wally himself. We are big on formal occasions as you can see from these installation photos.
Paul is getting ready to hand over his reigns and has followed the rules of "white coat affair" protocol properly. His head attire is also a regulation blue. Luckily our dress code enforcement officer caught Paul and convinced him to change the hat from John Deere green to Airstream blue just before the ceremony.
In this photo you see all the officers old and new. All the dresses are of regulation length worn by the ladies. Please note the proper Wally Byam approved eye patches too. Wally made them official during his second European caravan when he saw the men of Luxembourg wearing them to high tea... it is not widely known and hopefully Pee Wee will confirm this, the eye patch was a way to identify fellow caravanners in foreign lands. The blue beret was later made official because there was a shortage of eye patches during the Vietnam war.
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02-16-2008, 09:40 AM
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#38
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Is the german member a current or a former officer, and why is she/he not adorned with blue head gear or an eyepatch? It is a doggone shame he/she was not prepared for the group photo. This is serious stuff.
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Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
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02-16-2008, 10:45 AM
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#39
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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Dress Code....
ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
Does it really make it more FUN?
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"You don't know where you've been until you leave, enjoy life" RLC
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02-16-2008, 12:03 PM
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#40
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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I just wanted to back up my claims of taking the dress code serious in the WDCU. We have a strict eye patch rule. As I stated earlier it is a little known fact that the eye patch was the first thing used to tell the caravanners apart from the locals while traveling in foriegn countries. Wally was at sea for part of his life and had a thing for anything pirate. Those that knew him closely knew of what a piratephial he was.
Here is a photo of Wally in with his favorite hat and his "Sunday" eye patch.
The eye patch was also seen on some famous caravanners like Pee Wee Schwamborn, seen here in Nova Scotia
Or here worn by Harry Halbritter, who with his wife went on many caravans.
The eye patch has been making a resurgence lately, having been adopted by Wade Thompson, founder of Thor.
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