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Old 06-20-2016, 03:21 PM   #113
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I am sure Wally is rolling somewhere. To think we have time to discuss the the dos and don'ts of enjoying our Airstreams seems to me pretty petty. The open road is what you make of it! By yourself if you choose or with friends with the same interest. The same interest is "Airstream" for sure. I love talking about Airstream to/and with anyone who will listen. Not fair game to make statements that are negative in nature on a forum that attracts Airstream loving people. For those who wish to be alone, be alone. For most of us we all enjoy all of it with and without this negativity.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:24 AM   #114
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I am sure Wally is rolling somewhere. To think we have time to discuss the the dos and don'ts of enjoying our Airstreams seems to me pretty petty. The open road is what you make of it! By yourself if you choose or with friends with the same interest. The same interest is "Airstream" for sure. I love talking about Airstream to/and with anyone who will listen. Not fair game to make statements that are negative in nature on a forum that attracts Airstream loving people. For those who wish to be alone, be alone. For most of us we all enjoy all of it with and without this negativity.


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Old 06-21-2016, 02:07 PM   #115
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...I don't know whey they are still charging a premium except that people keep paying it...

Well that is the essence of capitalism isn't it!
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Old 06-21-2016, 03:43 PM   #116
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Actually, I like the idea that the Units should get more money, although I do not know what my Unit could do with it. I suppose, we could eliminate rally fees. I see that some of my Unit members participate in the International stuff, many more have been on Caravans. But it strikes me that the Caravans are supported by the leader and the fees paid by the participants, not the International office. Well, I pay my fees so that I can support Airstreaming and join in my Unit activities. Here is hoping this post is not deleted....
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:31 PM   #117
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Why would your post be deleted?

Yes, the participants pay the fees on the caravans. Yes, the leaders donate their time so they support the caravan. I think each caravan pays a small fee to WBCCI for the caravan insurance.

But it all would not happen without the International office and the WBCCI. WBCCI provides the central organization for the leaders and to train the leaders and to keep the long running caravans going. WBCCI makes it possible for the leaders and the volunteers on the caravan to have some liability insurance. Who would lead a caravan if they thought they were going to get stiffed for a financial problem or sued for who know what with no backup? What caravaner is going to mail a $5,000 kitty fee check to a stranger that is not affiliated with a solid organization.

WBCCI is a corporation. A non profit corporation. Its incorporation defines how it is run. It takes a full time staff to operate it and to comply with all the tax regulations. The magazine and stuff like that is just extra.

Join or don't join. It is definitely a better deal if you can go on the caravans. But our local unit has many members who have never caravanned and they still get something out of the club. But if sending $60 or so bucks a year to WBCCI corporate to keep the organization going and some of which helps organize caravans bothers you just don't join. Sorta like don't buy at Cabelas or eat at Longhorn if you don't want to.

I personally like WBCCI just fine the way it is. Our local unit does not seem to need more money. And it is probably more nearly fair for the rally participants of each rally to pay the cost than having the whole membership pay for the people who attend.
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:48 PM   #118
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Hi, I have previously challenged forum members to prove to me that their trailer has press board or particle board cabinets. People said that the cheap Safari's were made out of particle board and I have informed them that all of the cabinets in my Safari are indeed made out of plywood. And I had pictures to prove it. There is no use of particle board anywhere in my trailer. No-one to this date has shown proof of particle board cabinets in their's or anyone elses trailers.

Now I challenge you to show proof of "Sawdust cabinets with colored Formica."
I am certainly not an expert on all details of all years of Airstreams, but I have never seen one with particle board cabinets. As far as I know, the vinyl applique on the cabinet walls was applied over plywood. Not stating that there never were particle board cabinets in an Airstream, just that I don't have evidence of it.

The floor, however, was made with OSB from about 1984 to 1993, give or take a year on each end (our 1994 had plywood floors, though). I have seen this with my own eyes on several trailers and have owned one such Airstream, a 1985 model. At the time, they touted this as an improvement, because the entire floor was one sheet of OSB that ran the full length of the trailer did not have the seams every 4 feet that eventually would show through floor tiles or sheet vinyl flooring.

I have heard that in the early 2000's some Safari's and/or International CCDs in the shorter lengths may have used OSB flooring but I have not personally seen it and I do not know precisely which years and which models. If some of the larger and more expensive models continued to used plywood in the early 2000's, I would guess that the OSB was probably made from 4'x8' sheets during that period . . . again just a guess without proof.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:41 PM   #119
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I am halfway thru a two month road trip. Almost 800 miles so far. I have camped alone in the woods, commercial campgrounds, state parks, national parks (some with minimal hookups and several dry camping along the Blue Ridge Parkway), I have been flooded out of a river side mom and pop campground in West Virginia, spent a night in a Lowe's parking lot, a couple of nights in an unfinished campground courtesy of the Local Chamber of Commerce and finally made it to the largest gathering of Airstreams in many years. For the last couple of weeks I have been in the company of fellow SECU members. We have shared the joy of camping as Wally intended and intense personal sorrow for the our West Virginia host. It has been a journey of many first and I think Wally would approve.
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:07 PM   #120
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Old 07-02-2016, 03:30 PM   #121
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I have heard that in the early 2000's some Safari's and/or International CCDs in the shorter lengths may have used OSB flooring but I have not personally seen it and I do not know precisely which years and which models. If some of the larger and more expensive models continued to used plywood in the early 2000's, I would guess that the OSB was probably made from 4'x8' sheets during that period . . . again just a guess without proof.
My 2001 Safari 25 had OSB flooring.

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Well said stevesuemac. Why can't we all just do what feels right and people stop judging what others do! I think it's great wherever you want to camp, just go out and do it and have fun!!
Just because some do it one way doesn't make it right or wrong . Let's be respectful to each other, this world needs

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