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Old 08-25-2010, 05:29 PM   #1
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Lightbulb WBCCI Bylaws/Constitution suggestions/recommendations

A new committee has been formed with the goal of making positive changes in the governing documents of the club.

"To conduct a high level review of the WBCCI Blue Book and recommend revisions that will reduce costs, streamline management of WBCCI and remove unnecessary provisions."

I am one of the five members on this committee.

One area of change needed is communication to that end, I would invite and welcome meaningful discussions here (or Pm or email) with your ideas or concerns.
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:43 PM   #2
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Bob,

I assume that you started the same thread on the WBCCI forum? If not, why not?

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A new committee has been formed with the goal of making positive changes in the governing documents of the club.

"To conduct a high level review of the WBCCI Blue Book and recommend revisions that will reduce costs, streamline management of WBCCI and remove unnecessary provisions."

I am one of the five members on this committee.

One area of change needed is communication to that end, I would invite and welcome meaningful discussions here (or Pm or email) with your ideas or concerns.
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:50 PM   #3
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It's a problem with Gibson, he blocked me, and has caused grief with at least two other committee members.

We're working on getting that resolved ASAP
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Bob,

Who is in control of the WBCCI forum? Gibson, the electronic communication committee, the IBT or someone else?

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It's a problem with Gibson, he blocked me, and has cause grief with two other committee members.

We're working on getting that resolved ASAP
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That would be the first recommendation.

Create a new WBCCI website forum that is member friendly or change the management of that website so users can participate on it.

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Charlie Burke is the committee chair, I assume he reports to someone on the IBT.

I spoke to Norm about the issue and will follow up with a detailed email in the AM

More info here

Action I agree, let's see what can be done.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:10 PM   #7
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Bob,

I am well aware that Charlie Burke is the chairman. I have met Charlie a couple of times and respect him. Either the forum is under the control of the WBCCI or it is not. If it is, then there should be no issue about you (and all other members) having access to the forum, if not, then that is a real problem.

As you may have noticed, I have not contributed to the WBCCI forum or visited since February of this year. This is not because of the management of the forum but because of the lack of participation by the leadership.

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Charlie Burke is the committee chair, I assume he reports to someone on the IBT.

I spoke to Norm about the issue and will follow up with a detailed email in the AM

More info here

Action I agree, let's see what can be done.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:21 PM   #8
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Bob,

I assume that you started the same thread on the WBCCI forum? If not, why not?

Bill
Right now there is no members section on the wbcci forum. I suspect that as long as there is not, that postings of this type will not be put in a public area.

I did send a copy of the announcement concerning the lawsuit to Charlie. He did reply stating that he did not want to post it while there was not a members only area functioning. I can understand his thinking.

I too have run afoul of Gibson and he has placed me on moderated status, essentially for criticizing his posts. ( that is why I contacterd Charlie directly)

As I have said before the solution for most of the web site problems is simply removing it from his site, where he wields entirely too much power and putting it someplace under WBCCI control. At the same time the use of NON WBCCI member moderators needs to be addressed.
If I have strayed off topic, since I don't think this comes under constitution and bylaws ( may be it needs be covered in the bylaws) My apology
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:27 PM   #9
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Rick you are on topic it is defined in the bylaws.

STANDING COMMITTEES - GENERAL DUTIES

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Electronic Communications To develop, provide and maintain an advanced community forum for present and potential club members. Provide support to individual club, Unit and Region members and other committees’ effort to exploit the many features available both on and off the Internet. Through these combined efforts, the electronic medium can be used to increase the club’s presence and relevance to present and potential club members. (7/5/10)
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Bob, I'd like to know the status of Forrest's proposal here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...ion-59520.html

Ah, maybe I should just ask Forrest?

Forrest, what's the status of the change you proposed?


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Lynn, I don't know but it was mentioned.

I'll check, please give me a bit to find out.
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No rush. I'm a patient person.

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Bob,

This may be going way out on the limb, but I still don't understand why a Social Club like WBCCI needs a grievance committee nor the structure associated with it. I realize that Robert's Rules addresses it, but that doesn't mean that an organization which abides by RR is required to have a GC.

I would propose abolishing it, and removing all references to it in the Constitution and Bylaws.

I would also propose that a balanced budget be part of the C&B.
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Bob,

First let me say, I'm not trying to pee you off on this one, but you know and I know that someone was going to copy and paste this sooner or later, so I just thought I'd go ahead and get it out of the way now. I did add a few of my own at the bottom.

  • Have the IBT stop misappropriating funds.
  • Travel expenses - The Wally Byam Caravan Club International, Inc, is a non-profit corporation and no part of its income or profits shall inure to the benefit of its certain members/officers.
  • Have the IBT act prudently and reasonably in regard to the management of the organizations affairs.
  • Have the IBT do its duties to ensure effective organizational planning, establish programs and services consistent with the organization's mission and assist in implementing and monitoring the plan's goals.
  • Have the IBT provide financial oversight and assist in developing a balanced annual budget and ensuring that proper financial controls are in place.
  • Have the IBT manage, supervise and control the activities, affairs, property and funds of the International Club.
  • Have the IBT ensure legal and ethical integrity and maintain accountability for adherence to legal standards and ethical practices.
  • Have the IBT establish procedures to ensure that each board member understands and complies with his or her duties as a board member.
  • Have the IBT monitor the conduct of its board members to ensure the organization is being properly managed.
  • Make sure the IBT does not allow frivolous grievances to be filed.
  • Have the IBT follow the bylaws or Roberts Rules in adjucation of grievances.
  • Stop the IBT draconian measures terminating members and defamation of several members.
  • Stop the discrimination unfair practices of raising MAL dues.
  • Relax the dress code at events
  • Stop the “White Tux” events
  • Cut down the number of regions
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