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Old 01-10-2011, 08:14 PM   #239
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The rally coupon states that the seminar is on the 25th and the 26th with the executive board and IBT on the 28th. If the seminar runs to the 26th, that date will probably be broadcast also.

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My feelings about what I would like to see accomplished are pretty much in line with the post by Nuvite-F. Even progress in that direction would be very encouraging.
I have to admit though my outlook on the whole thing is pretty pessimistic after seeing the great success from the 3 or 4 year run of the 2020 committee.

It is now posted on the wbcci.org site that the meetings on the 25th and 28th will be broadcast. I am not sure what happens on the 26th and 27th but hopefully that will be work sessions, not party time.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:45 PM   #240
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:55 PM   #241
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I am waiting also. Not really expecting anything to come of all this, except the demise of WBCCI in a few years. The only people I really feel sorry for are the staff at Jackson Center. I gave up on my money ages ago.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:23 PM   #242
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Only 13 days and we will get our first hint of what is (or isn't) happening
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:25 PM   #243
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Whoa!!! This is going too far. Several posts have been deleted on the currently suspended topic of lawsuit refunds.

WBCCI threads aren't separated out on the portal page so that nobody will notice them. It's a convenience and that currently is being abused. The community rules apply here too. This thread (not members) is taking a 48 hour timeout.

No individual will be able to censor the community by acting out. That's no good. Civil posts are welcome when this reopens.

[ON EDIT: This thread is reopened. Please keep it on-topic -- WBCCI Bylaws/Constitution suggestions. Moderators will start a thread next week to reopen discussion before & during developments on the lawsuit refund issue. Please stay tuned... ]
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Old 01-16-2011, 10:03 PM   #245
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How incredibly rude...

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When are YOU going to answer it?
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Old 01-16-2011, 10:42 PM   #246
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John, a good outcome is having the Exec Board move the revised Constitution forward to the delegates.
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:53 AM   #247
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:19 AM   #248
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International dues are $65. The local dues are determined by the Unit and vary between $1 and $20. There are projected to be between 6,000 and 6,200 members this year. If you are look at what is most important to the leaders, you need to look at where they find it appropriate to spend the money. The liability insurance also covers the club for damages to facilities caused by members at the rallies.
And the real number is out... 5496. A short fall of 504 from what the budget was hoping to be based on. 704 if you use 6200. I sure hope those planning, do a better job with their personal budgets. That is a short fall to the budget of $32,760 or $45,760 depending on what numbers you use. I would imagine the lower number is used to justify using the money in the bank to cover it.
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And the real number is out... 5496. A short fall of 504 from what the budget was hoping to be based on. 704 if you use 6200. I sure hope those planning, do a better job with their personal budgets. That is a short fall to the budget of $32,760 or $45,760 depending on what numbers you use. I would imagine the lower number is used to justify using the money in the bank to cover it.
Not quite correct. The final membership numbers for the year won't be known until about September or so (after which time new members get the remainder of this year and all of next year when they join. I do not know what the rate of new members is, but I am sure they planned on counting all that will join during the first half plus of 2011 in their 2010-2011 budgets.
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5947 was listed in the directory last year. Would you like to throw out your adjusted number Joe? Be sure to factor in the the whole year and the fact that we had a total Lunar eclipse during that period too.

Bottom line... the money will come up short. The budget is flawed, and the difference will come from the infamous "million in the bank"
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5947 was listed in the directory last year. Would you like to throw out your adjusted number Joe? Be sure to factor in the the whole year and the fact that we had a total Lunar eclipse during that period too.

Bottom line... the money will come up short. The budget is flawed, and the difference will come from the infamous "million in the bank"
No the exact number is not a concern to me. I just point out that peak membership occurs just before the next year begins and I expect that most people would use that number in their budget estimates. The official numbers that are published as a result of the count in November of the prior year for the Membership Directory are the smallest that would ever apply to a given year since they occur at the start, yet people join throughout the year. These early numbers are valid for showing membership trends (and we all agree the trend is not good), but I doubt they are used for budgeting purposes. That's all.

Now I will step back out of this discussion and get back to enjoying my Airstreams. I probably should have just let this topic run it's course without commenting. Sorry for the interuption.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:59 AM   #252
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The budget will not be that short while $30K or $40K loss is a lot of money to an individual like me it is only about .0005% of the total revenue and not as big of an issue as loosing 250+ "members" that is a big deal.
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