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08-06-2010, 12:01 PM
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#741
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2 Rivet Member
1994 34' Limited
Ottawa
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 66
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What news on the lawsuit? Unusual that there have been no new posts for so many days.
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08-06-2010, 12:42 PM
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#742
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Stay tuned
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08-06-2010, 03:50 PM
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#743
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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A FULL INTENDED BUMP TO THIS THREAD
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08-06-2010, 04:05 PM
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#744
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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I have just been informed today that I have been expelled from the defend wally team for my comments that I posted on the internet in this thread questioning the progress and asking for updates. My alleged "outburst" is precluding me from being kept in the loop. What no sham of a grievance committee for breaking the code of ethics for moi?
Looks like you own it Bob. May it bring you many many happy hours of satisfaction and prestige.
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08-06-2010, 04:22 PM
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#745
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Silver Mist
Currently Looking...
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Think what you will Carol
Maybe Frank can hook you up as a tacky
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08-06-2010, 04:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel interested
I have just been informed today that I have been expelled from the defend wally team for my comments that I posted on the internet in this thread questioning the progress and asking for updates. My alleged "outburst" is precluding me from being kept in the loop. What no sham of a grievance committee for breaking the code of ethics for moi?
Looks like you own it Bob. May it bring you many many happy hours of satisfaction and prestige.
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Are you joking?
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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08-06-2010, 05:13 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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This shocks anyone? Seriously? You've seen the comments I've posted from the SW/DW crew and you're still shocked by this action against Carol? These are the folks who are defending? Sounds more like turf protecting to me...... the inmates have been trying to run the asylum for roughly four months, have little to show for it, but by all means stay tuned to see them turn on each other more.
Carol, did they give you your money back? I'm guessing no.
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08-06-2010, 05:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Don't be too quick to come to global conclusions of all persons however. The lawsuit should be about the IBT and it's accountability in all matters, including fiscal responsibility, the grievance process and Leo's expulsion and all of that should stand on it's own merit and factual evidences. What about Bob is purely entertainment value.
Note that Leo has been no part of DefendWally and Defend Wally members have been no part of Save Wally for the most. While there was originally a shared initiative, as you have noted the objective may have taken a turn and a life of its own in the pursuit. Once ego replaces reason we are all doomed to be divided.
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08-06-2010, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Well it looks ugly and it is telling.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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08-06-2010, 05:47 PM
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#750
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Silver Mist
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Riverhead
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel interested
Note that Leo has been no part of DefendWally and Defend Wally members have been no part of Save Wally for the most. While there was originally a shared initiative, as you have noted the objective may have taken a turn and a life of its own in the pursuit.
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You are incorrect, on all counts.
Perhaps black coffee will help
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08-06-2010, 06:17 PM
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#751
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Who are the Save Wally team members and who are the Defend Wally team members? Or is it the issues that I supported that are incorrectly listed? Wrong on all counts is a pretty broad statement, Bob.
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08-07-2010, 10:36 AM
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#752
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Understanding all these constituencies is impossible for me. It does seem cannibalism is sweeping through them.
Gene
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08-08-2010, 08:53 AM
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#753
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Owings Mills
, MD
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,125
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"Every successful revolution puts on in time the robes of the tyrant it has deposed."
Barbara Tuchman
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08-08-2010, 11:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Great quote Hamp. But man that was fast! One of my favorites has always been by George Orwell.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
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08-16-2010, 10:02 AM
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#755
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Just took a very quick look at the final financial statement for 2009-10.
Overall it looks like a fairly good job was done of staying within budget With one glaring exception. Legal expenses.
The budgeted amount was $1000 and the actual expense was $29952 or $28952 over budget , apparently for cease and desist letters and expelling Leo.
I hope it was worth it as this would keep early workers in pancakes for the next 14 years or so.
It also appears the International made a profit of $85,000 which will do a lot to fill the $103,000 hole left by the last rally. While I see this as good planning on the part of Tom Collier, it can also be seen as a $121.00 overcharge on the backs of the 700 attendees.
It is interesting that after last years experience, the legal budget is still set at $ 1000.
Of course I am not a financial person so if any of this is not correctly interpreted let me know
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61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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08-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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#756
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 65GT
Just imagine what could have been, had that $29K not been FLUSHED...
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Yep, flushed................................
More to be wasted to come or will all fizzel?
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I'm NOT an old man.............
Ed
54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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08-18-2010, 04:09 PM
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#757
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2 Rivet Member
1971 25' Tradewind
Grottoes
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 28
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This reminds me of why I never join clubs.
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08-19-2010, 05:45 AM
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#758
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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man, my popcorn bowl is getting empty. This is the thread about some law suit isn't it? Sure hope the show starts soon.
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08-19-2010, 06:08 AM
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#759
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Silver Mist
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Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,011
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Very soon, expect an announcement in the next day or two
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08-19-2010, 12:36 PM
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#760
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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That is good news! I am also looking forward to an update on the Defend Wally web site linked in your signature. The last news flash was that the New York unit asked to be added as an additional plaintiff (sic) in the suit. Did any other units or individuals add their support that isn't currently listed on that page? There is no update date listed so not sure the information is current and accurate.
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