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Old 03-09-2010, 04:11 PM   #113
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Doug & Maggie, Your statement on the Constitution and Arbitration is flawed.
WBCCI Constitution Article V (POWERS) Sec C enables the Leadership to enter into Arbitration - Read Sec. C very carefully and then understand what it means.



Also Under the Section containing the responsibilities of the International President, that part that says, " ; and shall have such other powers and duties as normally pertain to the principle office holder, as prescribed in the parliamen*tary authority adopted by the Interna*tional Club.



Finanily, read RRONR and there you have it.



So the Constitution does provide for and allow Arbitration



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Old 03-09-2010, 06:36 PM   #114
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ok Bob T, you sent an open letter and tried to contact them otherwise, I assume they failed to respond.

Is that correct?
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:24 PM   #115
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Invitation to summit?

As far as I know IBT does not even respond to communications. That is the reason membership frustration has mounted to find legal action necessary to have a honest and legitimate hearing of grievances and expect representation.

While a special meeting of a Pow-Wow rally would be the ultimate in experience and could be called I just don't think anything that open minded will result from the current IBT members, or at least the current Executive Committee members. Why the vast majority of current IBT has not tried to unify and direct leadership, I do not know. At the risk of being shot down, shunned, talked over and ostercized, I still think giving it a good college try is why they are on the board for us to begin with and not to stay in the good graces of the controlling power at the very top. There should be conflict and if there is not something is very WRONG!

Who are the current EC7? Perhaps we could list the members and their accreditations and history within the WBCCI to introduce them to the general membership. Perhaps then we will have a point in which to begin communications.
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LI Pets, You are correct
Have also sent the same message to Headquarters.

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Hi, Someone mentioned joining TAC if they are not welcome at WBCCI. What is TAC? Thanks!
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Hi shinysideup, There is a few threads on this, but this will get you started. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f505...tac-61421.html
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:40 PM   #119
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Everyone is welcome at WBCCI, except folks that feel the leadership needs to be challenged in the way the club is run.

oops there is one person that is not welcome
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The Leadership Targets Specific Club Members

It is well known, and I am sure it could be documented that WBCCI Leadership has targeted certain club members that try to make real changes to our club.

While President of Metro NY it was my honor to nominate Leo Garvey from the floor. I strongly supported his right to run legitimately from the floor. It was Leo that graciously withdrew his candidacy in order to save the lengthily re-roll call.
He chose to withdraw, I refused to withdraw his nomination even under much pressure.

While Leo is working hard to try and make positive changes in our club the Leadership stood by and did nothing when a 32oz Iced Tea was poured of Leo's head (literally) at the International. Instead of filing criminal charges or at least a grievance, Leo chose not to pursue the issue.

I can say that Leo Garvey and others have worked hard to try and make legitimate changes to our club through legal means. The leadership of this club is discouraging and dismantling the system that can change it and perhaps save it.

What the leadership is doing to this club and some of its' members in my opinion is disgusting and shameful. I admit to be surprised by their arrogance.

Leo has done much for our unit. Metro NY is one of the oldest Units in WBCCI.
We have 2 International representatives Ray Landman - chair of the Legislative Committee and Jim Zigrosser President to the WBCCI Amateur Radio Club. We are very active unit. We love to camp out, rally and travel together.

The leadership actions are threatening the survival of our unit and as some would say the unit is our club. Where will it end. My wife Joan 1 VP and I fully support the efforts to support Leo and Gail through what ever means needed.
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Oh,
BTW it was Doug & Sheryl Wylie that did the Iced Tea assault on Leo.
Not something they should be proud of.
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whaaaat?

While I am not a member of any WBCCI group, just reading about "incidents" like this, make me less inclined to join. Talk about DRAMA!
Being a school teacher, I am very used to children acting like children, but can't stand adults who act like children!
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While I am not a member of any WBCCI group, just reading about "incidents" like this, make me less inclined to join. Talk about DRAMA!
Being a school teacher, I am very used to children acting like children, but can't stand adults who act like children!
You are absolutely right. And, I too am ashamed.
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Oh,
BTW it was Doug & Sheryl Wylie that did the Iced Tea assault on Leo.
Not something they should be proud of.
Seriously? As in Region 9 President? Which one and why?
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Seriously? As in Region 9 President? Which one and why?
Nah, I think it was the Secretary.
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It was Sheryl
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