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Old 03-05-2010, 12:54 PM   #99
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Your repeated attempts to derail this effort are duly noted. But you should pick one method and stick to it. You have been publicly asked for your solution and offered none. You are now claiming to have had direct experience in Federal Court and still suggestion we arbitrate. I assume with your first hand knowledge you recognize the limitations of arbitration. Do you truly believe any decisions without the force of law behind it would have an effect on these people?

Yes this is going to cost quite a bit of money. However that money spent now will hopefully curtail the wasteful spending that will continue if no action is taken. Additionally there needs to be a return some sense of order as to how the Club is governed. You appear to be will to continue to spend thousands of dollars to perpetuate the lifestyle of the rich and famous.

I don't know how long you have been a member of WBCCI so I can't judge your personnel experience gained from that interaction. However I do know you are a member of this forum and assume if you have been reading for a period of time that you recognize there are problems and many different attempts have been put forth to correct them. None have even been allowed to see the light of day.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:55 PM   #100
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I think you're pretty full of it on this topic and subject, Bob, and you apparently have not really read my posts.

That you have not run any of what you are doing and representing here by this "very qualified law firm" begs the question as to where you are getting your information, tells me how little you really know and in all likelihood that you, yourself have not met and talked with this "very qualified law firm".

I'm done posting on this subject.

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Old 03-05-2010, 01:51 PM   #101
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in all likelihood that you, yourself have not met and talked with this "very qualified law firm".
You know not what you speak, how dare you say I'm stating the facts.

I can assure all, that several law firms were interviewed, the one which Leo and I had 2 meetings with so far is our choice.
Provided of course we get enough pledges.


On another note Maggie practice what you preach

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We would personally like to strongly encourage all the nay-sayers, pessimists, anti-WBCCI'ers, etc., etc., to take their repetitive criticisms and vitriol to the numerous threads for this purpose which are already in place.

We know how you feel/what the issues are, and we share some of those feelings, but everyone isn't leaving the WBCCI nor wants to see it disappear. Enough is enough. Leave one thread alone for positive posts and encouragement, for those who are interested and want to read it. If you can't stand it, there is an Ignore function.

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Old 03-05-2010, 06:07 PM   #102
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Just an update for those following the actions of the Keystone Cops. Rob got another C&D letter. This one probably only cost a couple hundred, real short, and not a lot of research necessary. You can read it at post #115 of this thread.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f290...h-61113-9.html

You dues well spent challenging a none Member. Wait till they get around to us.
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Old 03-05-2010, 06:52 PM   #103
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I would like to extend an open invitation to the 9 Guest currently reading this thread and all Guest that will read it in the future to register on the Forum and post your comments.

The Forum is free, uncensored, and offer a fantastic source of information to anyone owning or interested in Airstreams.

I know of no other site that offers that level of opportunity.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:16 AM   #104
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Do we have any Forum Members who are current or former IRS Agents?
Do we have anyone who is friendly with an IRS Agent.
I have a very good friend who is retired from the IRS Criminal Investigation Division.

I truly wouldn't do that to my worst enemy. This is a leisure-time club, not WISEGUYS or THE GODFATHER. If the guys feel sufficiently aggrieved and want satisfaction they can go to court for redress. I wish them the best. I cannot imagine anyone getting "terminated" from a club for no valid reason short of moral turpitude.

Seriously, don't even go there!!!!

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The Forum is free, uncensored ...
I'd classify this one as "true, sort of." Say whatever you want, but be prepared to be flamed if your statement conflicts with the prevailing view, especially concerning the WBCCI.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:32 AM   #106
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WOW! You folks are still at it! Same old cast of characters and same old rhetoric.

Don't forget this is a forum and not the WBCCI, and anyone can chime in. Flame away.

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Old 03-07-2010, 09:34 AM   #107
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Remember there has been no independent audits of the club’s financial affairs (e.g. all audits have been “in-house” in that selected members review and produce financial statements).
Several years ago, I saw the club's published financial statements which raised a number of questions in my mind, and when I posed some of my questions on this board I was shot down by one of the drones that was keeping watch over anyone who dared question the club's apparently sacred financial reporting practices.

Of course there should be an annual independent review of the club's financial affairs, which should probably extend to it's operational policies and procedures as well. If one were done, I can virtually guarantee you that its findings would be most beneficial, and enlightening, to EVERYONE involved. For myself, I certainly would not want to be an officier in any orgainzation - whether for profit or not - and have to be put in the embarassing position of explaining to anyone why I did not have or want such a review.

Of course I may be a bit biased in my views, having worked many years as an audit director in a major corporation, and volunteering my time to do audits of many non-profit organizations over the years.

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Old 03-07-2010, 10:29 AM   #108
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Money

There are only 2 ways to manage money.

Carefully with vision.

Dumb with blindness.

But all to often, many feel that if it's not theirs, "who cares"?

To some, erasers on pencils have no use.

Everyone makes mistakes.

The wise, identify and correct.

The dumb, maybe identify but still keep up the routine. Well, but maybe they are smart because they have a rich aunt or uncle.

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Old 03-07-2010, 06:19 PM   #109
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[SIZE=3][COLOR=Black]Remember there has been no independent audits of the club’s financial affairs (e.g. all audits have been “in-house” in that selected members review and produce financial statements).

Not true...............
the WI Unit took a look last week.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:46 PM   #110
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Not true...............
the WI Unit took a look last week.
Mind sharing what you found?

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Question 2020 Committee Report, Mid-Winter IBT, Montgomery, TX

"Any barriers that might keep Units from thinking outside the box need to be removed."

They recommend we don't think, I guess speaking our minds is impossible


"Any membership dues increase should be carefully considered as a last resort, weighed against other avenues of increasing revenues and decreasing operational costs"
I don't recall any other avenues suggested.


What operational costs were reduced?
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"Any membership dues increase should be carefully considered as a last resort, weighed against other avenues of increasing revenues and decreasing operational costs"
I don't recall any other avenues suggested.

What operational costs were reduced?
You must have missed my post #77 of this thread.
The President has proposed several cost reductions. The some of the more significant of witch are that all "Future trophies will have Plastic bases" and "Old trophies from when Mexico was in the Club will be reworked for additional savings." How could you ask for anything more?

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