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Old 09-02-2010, 03:09 PM   #953
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:10 PM   #954
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Through yourself, or through Dona? You sure bilk the lime light, Ill give you that.

From: Norman Beu <beu146@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:44:19 -0500
Subject: Membership
Friends

The selection of members for the Bylaws Revision Committee, approved by the Executive Committee on July 5, 2010, is now complete. I am pleased to announce the following appointments:

Dona Garner, Chairman, WBCCI Parliamentarian
Kerry Mattila, President, Ontario Canada Unit
Joe Perryman, 1st Vice President, Region 10
Bob Novak, Member, Metro New York Unit
Tom Smithson, First Vice President, Northern California Unit

I have encouraged Dona to consult with the 2020 Committee, the Vintage Airstream Club, and others as appropriate. I want to thank Dona, Kerry, Joe, Bob and Tom for stepping forward to the challenge of this significant task. My personal interest is to make the Blue Book more user friendly, to reduce the bulk, to review Standing Committee Job Descriptions, and to identify impediments to "fun, fellowship and adventure" - all the while retaining the essential character and the traditions of the WBCCI, including the Code of Ethics. Should you have an input for study by the Committee, please communicate directly with Dona.

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(from Save Wally posted by Damon Beals)
Help me out here. This is from just a couple days ago right? Where in any of this is the suggestion that this committee is going to bring about significant restructuring? Someone school me, I don't see it.
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I don't see it either.

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Help me out here. This is from just a couple days ago right? Where in any of this is the suggestion that this committee is going to bring about significant restructuring? Someone school me, I don't see it.
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1 of the apparently REAL tasks listed is to "review the standing committee job descriptions"...

i've seen the 3 ring noteBOOKS with these...

anyone wanna GUESS how many standing committees there ARE ((each with 1-3 page written job descriptions))?

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Old 09-02-2010, 03:27 PM   #957
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1 of the apparently REAL tasks listed is to "review the standing committee job descriptions"...

i've seen the 3 ring noteBOOKS with these...

anyone wanna GUESS how many standing committees there ARE ((each with 1-3 page written job descriptions))?

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Talk about “It’s about as good as a Fart in a Space Suit”

Norman Beu:

“My personal interest is to make the Blue Book more user friendly, to reduce the bulk, to review Standing Committee Job Descriptions, and to identify impediments to "fun, fellowship and adventure" - all the while retaining the essential character and the traditions of the WBCCI, including the Code of Ethics.”

I’m not quite sure why you need a full blown committee to accomplish the above.

1. A simple re-indexing takes care of “user friendly / reduce bulk”.

2. To review something is simple. But he “does not” say “eliminating” any. One could maybe interpret this to mean a “re-write” of the descriptions and to get rid of the “fluff” while retaining the job and duties as they presently are stated.

3. “Identify Impediments” to “FF&A”. This was done by the 2020 committee a couple of years ago and no major changes ever came from it because it requires the IBT/EC7 to quit spending like drunken sailors, give power back to its members and quit harassing members that you don’t agree with.

4. But here’s the kicker! “while retaining the essential character and the traditions of the WBCCI, including the Code of Ethics” What this means, do all the above (1-3) which is nothing more than a paper exercise, but nothing will change that gives up control from the IBT/EC7 or makes them quit spending like drunken sailors or allows them to kick out members or allows the members to talk bad about the IBT/EC7 actions if they choose to do so.



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1 of the apparently REAL tasks listed is to "review the standing committee job descriptions"...

i've seen the 3 ring noteBOOKS with these...

anyone wanna GUESS how many standing committees there ARE ((each with 1-3 page written job descriptions))?
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Over 100.
Oh no...like Paul said, only I was thinking more along the lines that Bob just got sent to Pergatory! And I don't think there is anyone left outside that will pray him out. Vanity they name is committee...
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when MOVING the exchange to another thread (missouri) isn't exactly wise...

ok so THIS phrase is clearly part of the wb PREZ message...

all the while retaining the essential character and the traditions of the WBCCI, including the Code of Ethics.

one of the recent changes i recall reading is an EXTENSION of the time to file a grievance...

from 30 days to 60 days ((this in spite of SOME calling for an END to the grievance committee))

wasn't this EXTENSION recently approved?

also from recollection the "code of ethics" includes language about how/not to address OTHER members of the wb'...

a glorified be NICE policy, sorta...but with more details and repercussions.

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...As far as action over there maybe when folks get out of the denial stage they'll wake up and realize they have an opportunity to get their ideas considered by the committee thu myself.
ONE THING FER SURE...

there are currently 4 OTHER folks on this new committee who might seem a TAD more useful to contact ...

IF ideas exist AND the thinkers of ideas wanna have those ideas considered...

just guessing, it might be ANY of those other folks will still be ON the committee months from now.

WHY? well here's why...

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...You can post in the bylaws thread or as I have said before...
so it's OK to read and refer to dat'thread...?

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...tml#post889710

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...Wbcci forums are run by the Gestapo...
isn't the CURRENT wb forum owner/runner a member of the wb'?

isn't referring to him PUBLICLY with such harsh labels some SORT of violation of the code'o'conduct?

((even if the thought of such a title is justified))

isn't it POSSIBLE that this wb' member COULD file a formal grievance related to being called a gestapo?

((being called a member of the nazi secret state police, is a bad thing right?))

it would seem that IF this wb' member opts to FILE a grievance and now has upto 60 days to do THAT...

the committee membership could change slightly as a result?

or considered another way...

IF ya wanna get yer ideas to bob, NOW might be the best time 2 do that.

just saying...

(as a proud member of the say'rs of nay or is it ni' , just saying ni ...)

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(as a proud member of the say'rs of nay or is it ni' , just saying ni ...)
We want... a SHRUBBERY! :: swell music :: ni!
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one that looks nice...

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[QUOTE=LI Pets;889710]this was posted in the Lawsuit thread:
The Committee will communicate with WBCCI Members via the WBCCI.ORG forums, Airforums, the Blue Beret and direct e-mails.

As you can see there is an obvious flaw, Wbcci forums are run by the Gestapo, It is being addressed, but until access is resolved or the management is changed, it's not happening there.

The best alternative is Airforums, (I thank them for their cooperation.)


This makes everything clear a committee appointed by the WBCCI will not allow open discussion on their own forum the BB will be censored and you will only answer those questions here that are deserving.
Just what in the heck am I messing here????????
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just wanted the 1000th post in the thread

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Thumbs up

And I just want to add I love the stories 2Air, and that they are way better than the ones Bob tells. You can't top that clip of the "Knights that say 'ni.'" Now that's entertainment!
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just wanted the 1000th post in the thread

dang missed it
Too late!
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