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Old 06-24-2010, 11:56 AM   #603
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If you don't defend yourself at a hearing, preferably with a lawyer, it is almost inevitable you will lose. It is probably incorporated in Ohio, so they have hearings in Ohio. If they didn't, malcontent members (or shareholders in a stock corp.) could cause the expenditure of vast amounts of money holding hearings all over the country. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not, depends on the circumstances. Unusual, no.

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When is the suit scheduled to be filed? Soon, I hope.
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I'd love to the see the look on the IP and IBT face's if they were served with the lawsuit's summons and petition(complaint) at the Int'l in Gillette. Obviously, someone not a paper to the action would have to serve them. ;-)

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Leadership's attempt to once again introduce teleconferencing as an acceptable method of holding a trial (special interest self-selected leaders would have you believe these procedures are merely 'hearings') failed yet again. Teleconferencing is not allowed by WBCCI bylaws and are not allowed by Robert's Rules.

Since when would common sense and world-wide recognized procedures deter special interest leadership from simply doing as they please?
Hang on... what?

First, Roberts has no such rule. In fact, teleconferences are explicitly allowed as long as all of the parties can hear each other.

Second, a quick perusal of the bylaws turned up no restriction that I can find. What section disallows teleconferences?
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An update of general interest. It was reported at the Saturday meeting at Gillette that the legal expences to date have now topped $29,000.00 out of the $1,000.0o budgeted.
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As noted above I am limited in what I can say at this point on advice of Counsel. Those that may want to follow what is happening on the other side might want to follow this thread.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...h-66139-2.html
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appeal board decision

This link is to a letter from Region 2 prez and then links to the appeal board decision.

http://www.wbcci2.org/royjune10letter.htm

Sure looks like a frivolous grievance from here.
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This link is to a letter from Region 2 prez and then links to the appeal board decision.

http://www.wbcci2.org/royjune10letter.htm

Sure looks like a frivolous grievance from here.
Rick,

Thanks for posting this. Apparently the leadership and the appeals board have forgotten the childhood rhyme "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me".

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Uhm, that letter has Mr. Garvey's address at the top. Why is that information posted so anyone can see it? I think that is some what improper.
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Rick,

Thanks for posting this. Apparently the leadership and the appeals board have forgotten the childhood rhyme "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me".

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It was asked earlier this week at the meetings in Gillette when do gripes become greivances. I am not certain of the woman who was speaking at the time during discussion but it made an impression upon me also. Usually if there is someone we can't see eye to eye with we just avoid the person or speaking to them. $29,000 later and the issues are no more settled than before the expenditure. Perhaps communication efforts can be employed with good result if employed in good intention.

I would have thought the new WBCCI forums a perfect venue for establishing communications and relationships but it never got off the ground with leadership.
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The now PIP said he would spend it again!

He saved the club in so doing...his words.

Does that mean kicking Leo out saved the club? If so from what?

I guess he will feel even better when the club spends 5-10 times that $29,000 as defendants.
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