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Old 06-07-2010, 05:27 PM   #589
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three questions:

Has anyone counted how many people have posted to this thread? Take me, Hamp, Gene, Silver twink, pm clemore, and Rob out of the count, for we are those dreaded "non members with no pony in this show". Don't forget Leo, he is a non member too, though he wants his pony back in for some odd(to me at least) reason... How many individuals ya got there?

and...

Does that constitute a sweeping majority pushing this forward?

and ....

Does the NY Metro Unit REALLY have 100% support within it's ranks for this suit, or are there some disgusted by what is being forced upon them?
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:26 PM   #590
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Has anyone counted how many people have posted to this thread?
Having little else to do this evening, I did. The answer is 73.

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Old 06-08-2010, 04:48 AM   #591
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That 73 is all those that have posted, including members of the club with Mr Byam's name in it, former members, and those that just piped in to say that this thread proves to them they are happy they never got involved. It is the actual number of actual members that is the eye opener.

The response to my earlier questions can hopefully be found on this new thread that Bob started. Not sure why it was not answered here.
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Public knowledge

I want this to be publicly known.. when all this started, I was asked if I would provide the information about my Cease and Desist letter that I received from the WBCCI by LI Pets...

My reply.. "Oh yeah, you mean the Bash.. if you want to use it, go ahead.. I could care less - I've moved on"

I've since changed my mind and want to be no part of this lawsuit any longer and last night I asked if those involved would remove me and my data from the information they are generating for the suit.. I was told by LI PETS in an email,

"Can't unring that bell at this point."

My reply.. " It's my data and my name, and if I don't want it used, and I don't, then you have no right. Sorry" . I also mentioned that if it is used, I'll have to contact my lawyer too.... but I'm not a lawyer happy guy (as they just take all your money) like some people are....

In a follow up email, this is what I sent..

"...... but now I've changed my mind and it's my data. As a courtesy, please honor my request. We don't need this to get nasty either. I have moved on, and I don't want to be associated in this lawsuit in any way."

With no reply as of yet...

I'm only posting to this thread as I just want it publicly known (and usually, they could care less with non member opinions - as I now see)... that I NO LONGER SUPPORT THIS LAWSUIT OR ANYTHING IT IS ABOUT

There, I got that off my chest... this whole thing is JUST TOXIC.. everything associated with it is... and I for one, DO NOT NEED IT.... Yes, I've moved on.

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The info is a letter from WBCCI's law firm to Rob, it was given to the Defend Wally lawyers weeks ago with your permission.

You were never going to become a named party so relax, it's just an exhibit that could have been obtained in discovery.

The real reason for your outburst is not the letter as we know.
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I want this to be publicly known.. when all this started, I was asked if I would provide the information about my Cease and Desist letter that I received from the WBCCI by LI Pets...

My reply.. "Oh yeah, you mean the Bash.. if you want to use it, go ahead.. I could care less - I've moved on"

I've since changed my mind and want to be no part of this lawsuit any longer and last night I asked if those involved would remove me and my data from the information they are generating for the suit.. I was told by LI PETS in an email,

"Can't unring that bell at this point."

My reply.. " It's my data and my name, and if I don't want it used, and I don't, then you have no right. Sorry" . I also mentioned that if it is used, I'll have to contact my lawyer too.... but I'm not a lawyer happy guy (as they just take all your money) like some people are....

In a follow up email, this is what I sent..

"...... but now I've changed my mind and it's my data. As a courtesy, please honor my request. We don't need this to get nasty either. I have moved on, and I don't want to be associated in this lawsuit in any way."

With no reply as of yet...

I'm only posting to this thread as I just want it publicly known (and usually, they could care less with non member opinions - as I now see)... that I NO LONGER SUPPORT THIS LAWSUIT OR ANYTHING IT IS ABOUT

There, I got that off my chest... this whole thing is JUST TOXIC.. everything associated with it is... and I for one, DO NOT NEED IT.... Yes, I've moved on.

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I just found these videos on UTube explaining or proving how folks are blocked from access to the clubs forum

YouTube - WBCCI-Forums_test_10-14-09.mov

YouTube - Video1.mov

I can't see how it can be denied.


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Since you're a non member, I need not
I'm a paid up member so show me. Either in Pm or here.
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Wow no word from anyone in a week. Does this mean the lawsuit has gone away?
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So sorry to hear this as you are a wonderful Rally compadre and have been an powerful, constructive, and effective voice within the WBCCI.

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The "Appeal Hearing Board" has upheld our expulsion from the club. Of course, as an international corporation, they were intent on holding their hearing at their attorney's offices in Ohio which was not acceptable on any front. We did not attend.

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If you don't defend yourself at a hearing, preferably with a lawyer, it is almost inevitable you will lose. It is probably incorporated in Ohio, so they have hearings in Ohio. If they didn't, malcontent members (or shareholders in a stock corp.) could cause the expenditure of vast amounts of money holding hearings all over the country. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not, depends on the circumstances. Unusual, no.

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If you don't defend yourself at a hearing, preferably with a lawyer, it is almost inevitable you will lose. It is probably incorporated in Ohio, so they have hearings in Ohio. If they didn't, malcontent members (or shareholders in a stock corp.) could cause the expenditure of vast amounts of money holding hearings all over the country. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not, depends on the circumstances. Unusual, no.

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