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Old 02-04-2006, 10:40 PM   #15
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I may be wrong, but any member that wants badge holders, or other WBCCI materials can buy them from Jackson Center. There is a table at the big rallies that sell it all, at least at FSR and International. Each unit has it's own policy on supplying badges to their members. I have been in units that require each member to purchase he badges, etc Other units supply the first one at no charge.

I too agree that this is a bad policy, making you show up to get the materials. It seems like an act of coercion to make you participate, even if you cannot or do not want to.
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wheel interested -- after reading your post I have to say I'm both shocked and angry to see a club that I pay dues to behaving this way, even if it's not the particular unit I belong to. I think this would be a good example to write up for the training manual on how NOT to manage a WBCCI unit.

To myboyburt and other NEUnit members and officers -- THANK YOU! for making our unit one that's so easy to belong to .

The more I think about it, the more it seems that he easiest and maybe the fastest way to change WBCCI would be to have more breakaway units start up. The newer units, less rigid and less concerned over rules, bylaws, and mandates, and more concerned with Wally's idea of fun and fellowship (like our N.E. unit), would move forward and grow with the younger (or young at heart and mind) while the older units would continue in their old ways until they just die off.
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Old 02-06-2006, 12:41 PM   #17
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We signed up 9 new members at the Vintage Rally which ended yesterday. By nightfall, my wife who is 2nd VP of the unit and also the Mentoring Chairman had, by email from the Membership Chairman, the names, addresses, and email addresses of the new members. As I speak, she is selecting a mentor for each new member. We try to get a mentor who lives fairly close to the new member.

The Treasurer, I am sure, is just as busy getting membership materials out to the new folks. We were caught somewhat flat footed by the number of new membrs, so we will print additional unit directories for each of them.

We will telephone to remind folks of the first few rallies and luncheons after they join. We will also keep in touch with the additional two couples that indicated that they want to join us in the near future.

We have recently added two couples that belonged to other units and one lady was President of her former unit. They all rave about the night and day difference in our unit compared to their former units. The lady who was President said that she was up against a stone wall trying to get anything done in her former unit.

We have one younger member who set up an informal rally in mid-summer when the unit doesn't ordinarily schedule rallies because so many members travel. His rally has become an annual event and he continues it even though he currently doesn't own an Airstream and is not now a member. We list it on our rally schedule and 12 to 15 members attend each year.
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wheel interested -- after reading your post I have to say I'm both shocked and angry to see a club that I pay dues to behaving this way, even if it's not the particular unit I belong to. I think this would be a good example to write up for the training manual on how NOT to manage a WBCCI unit.

To myboyburt and other NEUnit members and officers -- THANK YOU! for making our unit one that's so easy to belong to .

The more I think about it, the more it seems that he easiest and maybe the fastest way to change WBCCI would be to have more breakaway units start up. The newer units, less rigid and less concerned over rules, bylaws, and mandates, and more concerned with Wally's idea of fun and fellowship (like our N.E. unit), would move forward and grow with the younger (or young at heart and mind) while the older units would continue in their old ways until they just die off.
I am trying to get to the fun part and make all these warm friendships. I'm trying to get involved, or at least work up incentive to get involved. They do make it hard...
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Your unit's approach is much different then the approach of my unit. Our motto is: "It's just camping" and our attendance at unit events has increased quite a bit since we adopted this way of looking at/running things.
This is the way the group we camp with feels. So much so that we formed a new unit - The Heart of Texas Camping Unit. Most of us are working families that would prefer a more relaxed outing. We pick a time and place to camp and we show up and have fun. Pot luck breakfasts and suppers, which are optional, and the rest of the time is your time. No business meetings, no dues just getting together and camping for the fun of it.
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It takes our collective skills to make a great community and that is true for our organization. It is probably the strength of PAHASKA's group. In addition to pleasant personalities and genuine friendships, virtually everyone contributes in one way or another. Great rallys don't just happen, they take a lot of planning and work. At this weekend's rally PAHASKA's unit was publicized on the internet, in local newspapers and on TV. Over fifty units showed up. A number had to go to nearby campgrounds or come in for the day on Friday or Saturday. Probably fifty unexpected people came for various meals yet no one went without. Activities included live music, tours of vintage and modern Airstreams, a powerpoint history of the development of Airstream, door prizes, a swap meet, tours of new trailers, seminars, various opportunities for socialization, awards for unique restorations of vintage units, and a concerted effort to make EVERYONE feel welcome. All of that takes a lot of hard work and probably no one works harder than Kay and John; however the real strength of PAHASKA's unit is that everyone gets involved and they all share their respective skills to make each rally an enjoyable experience. I never heard a negative comment by anyone - member or non-member. I heard nothing but glowing compliments. I am confident that is one reason that we gained nine new members on one weekend and have the possiblity of gaining another two or three. They can sense the great times we have and they can see that as a group this group is not married to past memories of greatness but is rather commited to making a great future through hard work and a welcoming atmosphere.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:51 PM   #21
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What about the strongest units helping weaker units get up to speed? Or maybe extend region from Texas to New England?
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:55 PM   #22
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I Great rallys don't just happen, they take a lot of planning and work. At this weekend's rally PAHASKA's unit was publicized on the internet, in local newspapers and on TV. Over fifty units showed up. A number had to go to nearby campgrounds or come in for the day on Friday or Saturday. Probably fifty unexpected people came for various meals yet no one went without. Activities included live music, tours of vintage and modern Airstreams, a powerpoint history of the development of Airstream, door prizes, a swap meet, tours of new trailers, seminars, various opportunities for socialization, awards for unique restorations of vintage units, and a concerted effort to make EVERYONE feel welcome
With the exception of the rally being publicized on TV. How did you guys get this done?

BTW, I wish I was there, sounds like it was a blast!
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As stated in an earlier post, we are fortunate enough to have officers with vision and members willing to help them get things done. Something like this requires a lot of good people doing a lot of things right and we managed to do that.
We also got it done by deciding that we wanted a fun rally and that we wanted to reach not only the members of our Texas Highland Lakes Unit and members of other Texas WBCCI units, but that we wanted to make the rally really attractive to those who might for various reasons traditionally not attend functions such as this rally. In fact our officers PRIMARILY seemed to design this rally so that it would be fun and informative for non members and those whose trailers are not yet ready for the campsite. We tried to make everyone feel welcome and have something for everyone to do. We even attempted to identify all FORUM members at registration and identified them by campsite and name tag so that fellow forum members would have the opportunity to meet each other. Several times during meals, FORUM members were asked to raise their hands to further identify themselves and better facilitate getting to know each other.
I feel our efforts were appreciated by those in attendance. We received numerous compliments concerning what a great time people were having. Just in case we did something right, we invited the leadership of WBCCI so they could see what works. We had the immediate past WBCCI International President and the current International 3rd Vice President in attendance as well as every officer of the Texas/Oklahoma Region (Region 9). In fact, both of the International officers and a number of the Regional officers are members of our Texas Highland Lakes Unit. Hopefully, we are bringing back fun into the equation from without and within. We’re trying.
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:14 PM   #24
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A new WBCCI member's review.

My wife and I joined WBCCI in July of 2005. Our first outing with the local unit was at an August picnic. The people we met were friendly but not inviting. Almost 50% of the older folks that did say something to us said they no longer owned campers. The only people that took the time to sit and talk was another young (late forties) couple who informed us they would not be coming back.

We decided first impressions were not always right so we decided to attend the October installation rally. The rally was at a private campground that put the trailers so close to each other that our awning just missed the unit next door. The sites were grass but quickly turned to mud as it rained all weekend. We did not see anyone visit trailer to trailer. Ok we thought. Itís the rain! The rain is keeping everyone inside.

The installation rally gave us our first solid hint of a problem. It was formal, regimented, and tired. It was not fun or exciting. Everyone seemed to be on auto pilot. They went through the motions of a meeting but there was no life. It just seemed dead. We were stunned when we received the 2006 rally schedule and learned it was completely based on a retired personís availability. The schedule was not friendly to working families with kids in school. We were effectively shut out of the camping season. This left picnics and winter events.

We received our second hard hint of a problem when the unitís November dinner was announced. A local retirement center offered a free dinner to the entire unit as part of a recruiting program for new residents! It took days before my wife stopped laughing about this. Needless to say we skipped the November outing.

Attending the Christmas dinner was our next big adventure. Since I grew up in the sixties and watched a few episodes of leave it to beaver I have an idea of how things used to be. The dinner was like entering a time capsule. The friendships shared by the members were genuine and solid. They sang together, told poems, and played music. There was an obvious bond between them that many younger people would long to be a part of, but it was a bond based on a generation we do not belong to.

We did not fit in. The only couple that decided to sit at our table was the hospitality team and it was obvious they would rather be setting with their friends. They did not intentionally make us feel separate from them but there was a wall between us. The wall was become solid when they told our 15 year old daughter she was not a member of the unit. They did not intend to hurt her feelings because everyone knew kids were not members. It should be noted that the first president of our region later sent us a personal letter with the official WBCCI membership rules attached. It seems you need to own an Airstream to be a member and since most kids donít own airstreams they are not members.

Perhaps we were expecting too much to believe these people would understand the fragile nature of a childís desire to be accepted. We wondered if WBCCI culture was family based, or biased toward retired persons. In the end we found it more trouble then it was worth..

We spent the month of January reviewing our experience. We came to the conclusion that there comes a time in a unitís life when there is no turning back. The sad thing about this is that this unit is very much aware of the direction they are going. They are just too far along to change, and too tired to try.

We will keep our WBBCI membership for a while to see if things change, but we will not renew with the local unit. In the mean time we sent out feelers to Good Sam units, and FCRV chapters in our area. We joined one Good Sam unit last weekend to see what they are like and had a great time.

Sorry for the length of this posting but I wanted to share the experience of a new WBCCI member that does not live in the region 9 area. Almost makes Texas seem attractive!

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We did not fit in. The only couple that decided to sit at our table was the hospitality team and it was obvious they would rather be setting with their friends. They did not intentionally make us feel separate from them but there was a wall between us. The wall was become solid when they told our 15 year old daughter she was not a member of the unit. They did not intend to hurt her feelings because everyone knew kids were not members. It should be noted that the first president of our region later sent us a personal letter with the official WBCCI membership rules attached. It seems you need to own an Airstream to be a member and since most kids don’t own airstreams they are not members.


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Terry,

As I started reading your experiences and disappointments I thought to myself that you encountered such as many of us have had, but when I got to the part about your daughter I knew that this was far worse, it wasn't a matter of disappointment, it was an emotional assault, however insensitive to that fact the person was when they said it. As I read on about the president's letter, I thought, oh, good, an apology to you and your family was sent. Then I read they hit you with the rule book! That is the best example of the worst experience that I have heard. And I for one am sorry.
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Terry, I was just thinking the same thing as wheel interested was. I'm also very sorry that this happened to you and your daughter. If it's true that according to the rules and regs only the owners of the Airstream unit are members in the WBCCI, then I guess only one of the two adults in our family is a member and the other adult and two kids are just...what? tag-a-longs? This is just another one of those things about WBCCI that needs to change. But (sigh) instead of finding ways to fix these things that could help them grow, they're worryin' about what name they're going to take to the grave!

After reading your post I can't imagine why you would want to stay in WBCCI, but I hope that you'll consider using your membership to attend some of the rallies of other more family-friendly units. At any rate, if you're ever in New England, feel free to drop in on one of our events. We'd love to have ya!
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Terry,

As I started reading your experiences and disappointments I thought to myself that you encountered such as many of us have had, but when I got to the part about your daughter I knew that this was far worse, it wasn't a matter of disappointment, it was an emotional assault, however insensitive to that fact the person was when they said it. As I read on about the president's letter, I thought, oh, good, an apology to you and your family was sent. Then I read they hit you with the rule book! That is the best example of the worst experience that I have heard. And I for one am sorry.
Hi Guys,

When I took on the role of Membership Chairperson for the New England Unit I was told to badge *every* family member *and* to offer to customize the badges for the kids. By customize I mean special colors for the kid's names or to offer their parents names next to theirs.

Are kids members of the New England Unit? You bet! Are they members by WBCCI standards? I don't know but if they are not then shame on the people who are running the show as we need champions to continue our club in the future.
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Hi Terry;

It is ashame you had to experience what you did. - Many of us have gone through the same motions. We are lucky we did not have kids - because if we had that experience I just don't know what I would have done.

However I am afraid the only way you will see change - is to change it yourself. It will be our generation that will have to lead in the change. We really can not expect the generation before us to. We sort of hope they won't mess things up even further than has already been done.

For the generation (and not all are lumped in this deal!! cause there are some pretty cool open minded and progressive pre-baby boomers out there) but then for the rest - they have entered the mobile retirement home syndrome which we will never be able to change. Our efforts can be concentrated elswhere

When you get your directory list - find out who the members are that are your age group - take the initiative and give them a call - get together and do things - you don't need permission like many think you do. Just go have fun and camp. The more people you find the more you will do and then people will notice - the ones that have the fun will attract others who want to have fun - and that is how NEW spin off Units form -they made it easier for us - by stipulating only 10 members can form a Unit!!!

If we get enough 10 folds and then amalgamate over time - we will have evolved into a brand new WBCCI (without having to sing Old MacDonald had a farm......)
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