View Poll Results: How will you vote on WBCCI motor home issue?
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:19 PM   #57
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:33 PM   #58
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...What I remember hearing (and it could be just hear say) is that a new Airstream MH or Trailer is given to newly "elected" IBT officers to use during their term in office. Then at the end of their term the Airstream is offered to them for a reduced price, because of course it is now a used MH.
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I wonder if the same kind of perk will be offered if the Four Winds are allowed in. I guess it would be up to Thor as the parent company to decide if they want to continue the same type of program they offered IBT officers through Airstream...
I've been away from the forums for a couple of days and didn't get to address this, but I think it is important, so here goes.

It may have been just rumor, but in light of what I was told by the Airstream dealer who, BTW, is not an Airstream only dealer, it may be somewhere in between. He seemed pretty disgusted that he "had to give it to them".

But you can bet if it's free use of the new unit and a cheap price on a used unit that they have used since new (i.e. they got new to begin with) that the IBT wants to continue this perk and that's why they wanted to add the line that also allows used Four Winds motorhomes to be included as qualifying for membership.

By newly elected, does that mean they get a new Class-A every time they are re-elected if they sit out a term? Is this their loop-hole? As a new member I don't know the history of the IBT folks' tenure, but I seem to remember that it pretty much seems to be the same folks re-elected over and over because no body wants to make that kind of commitment to the club. You can be if they gave me a new Class-A I'd volunteer if I were retired! And you can bet they have a "gentleman's" agreement to keep that under wraps so they don't have to share that little perk with any more people than they have to. Maybe Airstream made them sign a confidentiality agreement to get the free use/free unit/discounted unit.

I would think that Thor would be happy to continue the practice with Four Winds. Why not? The IBT members get to "demonstrate" their new Four Winds models at all the WBCCI rallies for Thor and all the campgrounds they stay in and at any Mandalay rallies they happen to attend because you know Thor will give them free memberships to their Mandalay Owner's Club and whatever clubs there are for Four Winds owners. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't rigged up some kind of tier system so that the higher office you hold the more expensive Four Winds unit you get. IBT office-you get a Mandalay; Regional V.P.-you get a Hurricane! or whatever their base unit is. That's probably why they want to open it up to all Four Winds Class-A's.

Maybe all of this is just rumor, but after the dealership manager told me what he did this weekend, I certainly believe there is more to this issue than we have been told and more than meets the eye.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:17 AM   #59
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Let me see if I got this straight. Thor decides it can't build Airstream "A" moho's and sell them at a profit, so it stops. SOB manufacturer is available to buy, so Thor buys it? Or did Thor already own the other brand before buying Airstream?
I can see the HBS business model showing up clearly. And, naturally, Thor wants to expand its sales basis through showing its product line wherever it can. The WBCCI is probably a side issue with them; they're getting a lot of Web time from it.
What's next? - let's see, I'll bet they have lots of Airstream decals left over, and it would be pretty simple to "brand" some of the surplus production as A/S, and Viola! headline "Airstream Reopens "A" Moho Production Lines"!!!
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Let me see if I got this straight. Thor decides it can't build Airstream "A" moho's and sell them at a profit, so it stops. SOB manufacturer is available to buy, so Thor buys it? Or did Thor already own the other brand before buying Airstream?
I can see the HBS business model showing up clearly. And, naturally, Thor wants to expand its sales basis through showing its product line wherever it can. The WBCCI is probably a side issue with them; they're getting a lot of Web time from it.
What's next? - let's see, I'll bet they have lots of Airstream decals left over, and it would be pretty simple to "brand" some of the surplus production as A/S, and Viola! headline "Airstream Reopens "A" Moho Production Lines"!!!
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Thor was formed in 1979 to purchase Airstream from Beatrice. At that time Thompson and Orthwein owned a popup trailer manufacturer, which they have since sold. After purchaseing Airstream, Thor was able to accumulate the many RV and bus manufacturers which they now own.

It all started with Airstream.

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Wow! So Beatrice Foods used to own Airstream, sold it to THompson and ORthwein, acronym THOR, and they used Airstream as a vehicle to buy RV and bus manufacturers. Along the way they built "A" Airstream motorhomes but found they competed (or didn't sell as well) as the other RV's? So the A/S "A" comes off the market. But the others are alive and well. So now we come to the question of WBCCI and the other Thor products, am I getting this right?
This is a fascinating story that is developing. I can't wait for the credits to scroll up at the end.
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Wow! So Beatrice Foods used to own Airstream, sold it to THompson and ORthwein, acronym THOR, and they used Airstream as a vehicle to buy RV and bus manufacturers. Along the way they built "A" Airstream motorhomes but found they competed (or didn't sell as well) as the other RV's? So the A/S "A" comes off the market. But the others are alive and well. So now we come to the question of WBCCI and the other Thor products, am I getting this right?
This is a fascinating story that is developing. I can't wait for the credits to scroll up at the end.
Pretty much sums it up.

One of the most interesting things to me is that one of Airstream's Class A's was the Skydeck. It was pricey, but it was the only thing like it to my knowledge. Just made to take to the NASCAR races and park in the inner loop to have a "birds-eye" view of the races, or any other thing. It had sun lounges and a stainless steel grill with TV and phone lines and a bar with ice-box all on top of a Freightliner diesel pusher motorhome. Really a great idea, but the permanent stairs took up too much floor space if you ask me and there was only one slide. You could bet bunks and a queen bed with sleeper sofa option to sleep up to 8 I believe.

But alas, it too is gone after only a couple of years.
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Mike Leary not waving at MHs sounds like a few WBCCI rallies we go to. We don't care what brand or if it is TT or MH, we wave. We love parking next to people like Mike when we are using our friends brand new Prevost(2 WEEKS OLD). Checking it out for him.
Mike, remember we are having fun camping and traveling whether you wave or not. We just feel sorry for you and your attitude.
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