View Poll Results: How will you vote on WBCCI motor home issue?
WBCCI member voting "yes" 4 3.17%
WBCCI member voting "no" 98 77.78%
WBCCI member voting "abstain" 0 0%
WBCCI member not voting 1 0.79%
Non-WBCCI member voting "yes" 1 0.79%
Non-WBCCI member voting "no" 22 17.46%
Non-WBCCI member voting "abstain" 0 0%
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:54 PM   #43
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...maybe we will attend one of your rallies this fall as my wife and i love that part of the country.
Definitely send me a PM if you plan on coming out this way. We would love to have you join us camping.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:52 PM   #44
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I am against SOB being members. I think the leadership is a big problem on declining membership. IMHO, instead of opening up the membership to other brands, open up the minds of the leaders to the differences in the A/S population(i.e.- families, actively employed fulltimers). I would love to attend the rally for info on maintenance, upkeep, improvements and tips to improve my rving experience. But some of the entertainment and other activities seems to be geared for the Lawrence Welk generation. Other organizations that have a large focus on us Boomers have realized the old molds aren't working. Sorry the MH folks might feel like they are slumming it if they had to go to a TT. Personally, I feel like mine is 1st class. 'shaker
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:13 PM   #45
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Someone want to explain this air/mo/ho thing?

I have no clue what this vote deal is all about...are you throwing the
"boxes our classics came in" out of the club???????
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:17 PM   #46
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I have no clue what this vote deal is all about...are you throwing the
"boxes our classics came in" out of the club???????
Here's a link to a thread that will provide you with answers to your questions.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:48 PM   #47
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A little help for the "mossback"

I STILL don't have any idea what everybody is talkin' about?????
Is there some Thor cheapo mo/ho out there or do you think that mo/ho
owners are lower on the food chain because we don't have enough room
for blow-up pink flamingos?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:54 PM   #48
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Amendment No. 1

Proposed by: International Board of Trustees

Amend the WBCCI Constitution, Article VI, “Qualifications of Members,” Section 1, (page2) as follows:

After the words… “Airstream, Inc.” and before the words “shall be” by the insertion of the following: “OR A CLASS-A
MOTORHOME MANUFACTURED BY THE FOUR WINDS INTERNATIONAL DIVISION OF THOR INDUSTRIES,
INC.”

Article VI Section 1 would then read:

An adult who owns a hard sided recreational vehicle manufactured by Airstream, Inc. OR A CLASS-A MOTORHOME MANUFACTURED BY THE FOUR WINDS INTERNATIONAL DIVISION OF THOR INDUSTRIES, INC., shall be eligible for membership.

AND

The WBCCI Constitution, Article VI, Titled “Qualifications of Members,” Section 2 B, (page2) be amended after the words...
“recreational vehicle” and before the words “ as defined in this Article” by striking of the following: ”MANUFACTURED BY AIRSTREAM, INC.”

Article VI Section 2 B would then read:

Ownership, except as otherwise provided herein, of a recreational vehicle as defined in this Article, and the payment of annual Unit and International dues to a Unit is prerequisite to retaining membership as a Regular Member.


Rationale:

WBCCI is facing a highly probable major decline in membership within the next 3 to 5 years and needs to begin to address this very critical issue now in a positive way. The largest part of the potential membership decline, over this period, will come from the Airstream Inc., decision to stop all production of Class-A motorhomes. This is because our caravanning friends, who currently own Class-A motorhomes and choose or need to continue to do so, represent approximately 20% of the Club membership, and they will be forced to leave our great Club, due to the lack of motorized product, unless we do something about it now. Not only are these members our friends, but also their volunteerism is a giant part of the life-blood of our organization. This is an issue about our friends being able to continue to be members and their tremendous value to our Club and in keeping it alive, not about product.

When the additional loss of the Class-A motorhome members is combined with our “normal” yearly loss rate of -12% over 3 to 5 years this can result in a loss of-33% to -50% of overall membership in the club, crippling the organization. As the organization begins to shrink, dues will escalate sharply to make up for lost revenues, which in turn will most likely cause other members to leave the Club. The loss in member volunteers will mean the loss of most, if not all, large events such as International, Special Event, National and Region Rallies, as well as most Club caravans.

The acceptance of the Four Winds Class-A motorhomes for WBCCI membership permits owners of these RV’s to be a part and
contribute to WBCCI as members, continuing to share their friendships and talents. Additionally, passage of this motion will allow those members that choose, as well as need, to own Class-A motorhomes to remain members and help keep the vitality of our Club.

The words “manufactured by Airstream, Inc.” are superfluous in Article VI of Section 2 B, as Section 1 of Article VI already provides the criteria for the manufacturer of eligible recreational vehicles. This also would make Section 2 consistent with Sections 3 and 4 of this same Article.

The WBCCI Constitution & Bylaws Committee recommends the issue of an “identifier,” for the Four Winds Class-A motorhomes,
not be addressed in the WBCCI Constitution i.e. this motion, but in the Bylaws and Policy Section of the Blue Book, page 56.1.
Therefore, upon passage of this motion the WBCCI International President will bring forward to the IBT for vote a motion addressing type, size and placement of this Four Winds Class-A motorhome “identifier.”

We also recognize that not all members desire to own a brand new motorized product, so acceptance of the motion will be for new, as well as used, Four Winds Class-A motorhomes.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:16 PM   #49
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Thanx for clearing the mo/ho issue up.

So Airstream dropped ALL mo/hos? Even the ugly ones that we don't wave
to? Wow, I thought I'd read some thing in Airstream Life about a new
Classic super dupper sell our houses mo/ho. I guess you know how I would
have voted!!!! We're off to Malhuer N.W.L.R. in southeast Oregon this
weekend...see you on the road shineys! M
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Wow, I thought I'd read some thing in Airstream Life about a new Classic super dupper sell our houses mo/ho.
There was a new classic m/h in the works but A/S scrapped that project last year.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:39 PM   #51
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I wave to all A/S's but I doubt I will be waving to any Four Wind m/h's. It's a challenge now to differentiate between non-classic M/H's and SOB M/H's but if the Four Winds M/H's get added to the mix, I will be totally confused.
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I wave to all A/S's but I doubt I will be waving to any Four Wind m/h's. It's a challenge now to differentiate between non-classic M/H's and SOB M/H's but if the Four Winds M/H's get added to the mix, I will be totally confused.
Jeez, I feel like I've been on another planet (w/our '83 310). Is the Four
Winds (nice name, ho ho) a "box" from Thor?
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Winds (nice name, ho ho) a "box" from Thor?
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What's next? Will they allow the Four Winds M/H toy hauler?

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Hey - check the protocol on this thread. I had already voted and yet it permitted me to vote again!
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Hey - check the protocol on this thread. I had already voted and yet it permitted me to vote again!
Can't be.
The system is setup to allow one vote per login name. Perhaps your first vote didn't actually go thru.

You didn't cheat and vote twice did you???
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