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Old 08-06-2006, 04:39 PM   #43
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Great idea, but...

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
...and it looks to me like I should clam up and starting working from the inside to get more maintenance rallies and to get the WBCCI to cough up funds to establish a "VAC skill center " in some as yet unnamed location.
Therein lies the problem (at least one of them) WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS?
  • WBCCI will never "cough up funds" as the majority of the members would never use it, they have new trailers that wouldn't need the facility.
  • VAC certainly doesn't have a budget for a facility like this
  • VAC members aren't going to want to make a long trip to the same place every work! Rallys are for fun ~
  • Most don't have the time to camp the length of time that would be necessary to get halfway across the country, then stay long enough to accomplish anything. Unlike airplanes at Oshkosh who's travel time is much quicker
  • Most trailer restorations are done in a year or two, not a lot of repeat attendees
  • Once your restoration is done, no need for the facility...unless you are a multiple trailer owner
  • Most DIY'rs are doing it themselves because they don't want to pay to have it done...they most likely won't want to pay to do it somewhere other than at home or a facility close to home either - what if you don't "get done" with your project while at the facility in the timeframe you planned? You know everything takes longer than planned...
  • Who are "the experts" that will be teaching the others?
  • What about insurance?
I'm all for the concept, I just feel it would be more feasible as a private venture, where those who use it pay for it, than a club facility.

Just my two-cents ~


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Old 08-06-2006, 06:23 PM   #44
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I just joined the vintage club and am also one of the old timers. And I totally agree with Shari. And I think that this is part of the way our club must evolve.

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Old 08-06-2006, 07:02 PM   #45
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Shari (and ALL),

Most of your comments imply that the purpose of the facility is to do work on member's vintage Airstreams. That's not practical, as you point out, and not my objective. If you think AS restorations take a long time, you ought to try and build/restore an airplane!!

Yet thousands of airplane nuts gather every year in Oshkosh to

see others' work
see new models
get good ideas
attend technical training
see a bunch of vendors in one place
socialize with others with the same interests
and watch the Air Show (we'd have a hard time competing with that!).

They also "rally" all over the country, but they call them fly-ins.

If VAC had a "home" and some VAC-owned vintage Airstreams that were being restored/remodeled for others to observe, I think that would be a plus for the community. If Pensacola can restore a trailer and raffle it off, it isn't beyond contemplation that the VAC as a whole could, too.

Who are the experts? Most are on this forum. If you look at the Oshkosh example, their "experts" travel each year from their homes to be there and teach.

There are so many great places in this country that offer numerous local travel attractions (which would be a big draw for a quorum of Airstreams to gather around)--take Cortez, CO, for example. It is an easy drive to

Grand Canyon
anasazi country
Moab (Aches, Canyonlands, Goblin Valley, the San Rafael Swell)
Santa Fe and Taos
Black Canyon of the Gunnison
Great Sand Dunes
Lake Powell
Petrified Forest
and Monument Valley.

If you're a camper, boondocker, photographer, water person, history buff, or just plain tourist, you could hit the annual technical gathering at Cortez, then take the world's best vacation.

We, as a Vintage community (and many owners of newer Airstreams who love to tinker), are exactly like the flying community that gathers at Oshkosh. We could make this happen.
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:38 AM   #46
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This is way to complicated to be any fun
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Old 12-10-2006, 08:33 AM   #47
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I should think you would want the vintage club open to all Airstreamers. If you advertize a vintage function, Only those folks with vintage interests are likly to attend even if their unit is new. Having an oportunity to see restored vintage Airstreams certainly interests me. How old does an Airstream need to be to be considered vintage??
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Old 12-10-2006, 08:53 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by David Alan
I should think you would want the vintage club open to all Airstreamers. If you advertize a vintage function, Only those folks with vintage interests are likly to attend even if their unit is new. Having an oportunity to see restored vintage Airstreams certainly interests me. How old does an Airstream need to be to be considered vintage??
David Alan,

For the Vintage Airstream Club, a sub unit of WBCCI, an Airstream (trailer, motorhome or Argosy trailer or motorhome) must be 25 years or older. Any age Airstream can attend a VAC function.


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