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Old 04-23-2007, 06:44 AM   #1
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Unit Presidents Appreciation Dinner Dress Code

are there any other Unit Presidents that may not go to the Appreciation Dinner because of the Dress Code?
I had planned on wearing nice khaki's, nice polo and blazer. But then find out a DARK SUIT IS REQUIRED. Is this to attend the funeral of the WBCCI
We have not made up our minds yet to wear the above clothes, or simply not go. Then we'll be faced with the same situation next year when my partner Bob is president.
This is an RV camping club, it is JUNE in GEORGIA........
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Perhaps if enough of us wore business casual attire, someone would get the message?
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:33 AM   #2
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It is a nice dinner and in the old days the club paid the bill. Now you have to pay for your own dinner and it is the usual banquet affair. You used to have to take your oposite sex spouse to it but that has been changed when a single grandpa had to fight to take his teenage grandson.

I am not a very formal person but do own a few 3 piece suits from my business days. I do not mind having to wear a short sleeve dress shirt and Airtream tie for conducting formal buiness meetings but I am not one for suits during a camping club dinner. I always thought the long dresses some women wear for the President's ball after the installation was out of place for a camping club. Long reception lines and formal attire made it seem like the Captian's ball on a old fashion ocean cruise. We usually go over to the kids dance held on the same night. It is not formal and more fun. I was looking at some of the old days when Wally ran the show and indeed the women were dressed formally and even on the African caravan had dresses and high heel shoes in alot of the photos.

If we go to the Presidents affair, we wear casual and skip the reception line but pick up our free cookies and virgin punch.
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Welcome to the Forums, Mr Unit President. We're glad to have you with us. Please plan to stay with us a while and become aware of how Airstreamers feel about various issues, including WBCCI. If more of the WBCCI hierarchy were on the Forums regularly, they might be able to pry their heads out of the sand and see what's really going on in the Club. I know that WBCCI has its own forum; too bad that it's so lame and useless.

As to your concern about wearing a dark suit to the WBCCI dinner, I agree that business casual is more than appropriate for an RV club event. This is another indication that the WBCCI leadership is out of touch with reality. I have an Airstream to go on camping adventures, not to go to events that require a business suit or evening gown. As far as I'm concerned, having a dark business suit in an Airstream is like installing a screen door in a nuclear submarine.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:53 AM   #4
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are there any other Unit Presidents that may not go to the Appreciation Dinner because of the Dress Code?
I had planned on wearing nice khaki's, nice polo and blazer. But then find out a DARK SUIT IS REQUIRED. Is this to attend the funeral of the WBCCI
We have not made up our minds yet to wear the above clothes, or simply not go. Then we'll be faced with the same situation next year when my partner Bob is president.
This is an RV camping club, it is JUNE in GEORGIA........
Thoughts?
Perhaps if enough of us wore business casual attire, someone would get the message?
Dan Dureik
President, Cape Cod Mass. Unit
Hi Dan,

Nice to see you on the forums.

I think if I was in your shoes I'd attend and would wear khaki's, a polo shirt and blazer. You will be the most comfortable person there and a little passive resistance to the old ways of our club is not a bad thing (at least not in my book).
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:58 AM   #5
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But if he does, then isn't it almost predictable, based on several WBCCI Rally reports, that someone, or several, will come up to him, shaking fingers and scolding that he does not meet the rules, that he'll just have to leave, change clothes, and return if he hopes to have dinner with WBCCI. What are the chances?
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Wear the khaki's. show them there is an option. The suit is left over from 50 years ago. Times have changed. it is time they change thier clothes too.
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my responce. Get a CLUE! Look at yourselves. You are the reason the WBCCI is loosing members not me. I am the new WBCCI. The organization must change or it will die.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:16 AM   #8
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Welcome Dan!

Dan-

I'm sure many of us at least chuckled reading your message... There are a number of threads here about issues with WBCCI protocol and practices...

I think the dark suit dinner thing in Georgia in July at a camping event is pretty symptomatic of some of the disconnect between officers and members and non-members...

I don't mean to be critical of fraternal organizations or the military, but the senior leadership of WBCCI seems to have become imbued with the hierarchical and ceremonial behaviors common to retired military or mature fraternal organizations... The flags, parliamentarian, layers of officers and rules, coupled with rigid adherence to traditional rally and caravan "rules" have been a turn-off for some. It is obvious, as well, that many long term members find this consistency and repeat socializing with shrinking circle of friends they've grown comfortable with to be just fine... Units like yours and New England and WDCU and Four Corners are trying to lead change, but not without some resistance..

I have read in fashion circles that a middle aged man today may go essentially anywhere with a Hawaiian shirt, khaki's and loafers... I find this enormously comforting... I'd suggest you consider trying it for the dinner, though I fear the outcome will not be pleasant.. Good luck!

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Perhaps if enough of us wore business casual attire, someone would get the message?
It sounds like you are already considering wearing business casual but are looking for other unit pres' to join you. Saftey in numbers! That would give you a bigger "dam" to hold back the chastizing that others seem to think might happen.

The $20 question is, are there any other unit presidents on our forums who want to join Dan in business casual?
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Calling all Unit Presidents

Dan,

Not to hijack this thread, but I doubt if there are very many unit presidents on this forum or any other email list. This is another example of the need for a unit presidents forum which Paul Waddell suggested some time ago. Otherwise you need to email,phone or snail mail them for their input.

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barking dogs....

this written dress code is already largely ignored.

folks can and do go to the apprciation dinner dressed as they want.

YES the writing needs to be changed.

and as a unit pres YOU can volunteer to change the written code...

have you offered to do so?

with most things wbc related,

i favor throwing OUT the baby WITH his bath water

but the starter post is much adu about garments.

the club is going down, while folks wring their hands about mohos and blazers...

black eye patch and do-rag SHOULD be required!

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But if he does, then isn't it almost predictable, based on several WBCCI Rally reports, that someone, or several, will come up to him, shaking fingers and scolding that he does not meet the rules, that he'll just have to leave, change clothes, and return if he hopes to have dinner with WBCCI. What are the chances?
Maybe, but it is going to be a dinner made up of mostly Unit Presidents. I'm not convinced they are as concerned about following the "rules" as much as some of the folks in higher up positions. At least in Region 1 most of the Unit Presidents are "next generation" WBCCI members, not old school.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:10 PM   #13
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Business casual is the way to go. Great changes are made by many little ones. One day through your heroic efforts of today we will be able to wear our Hawiian shirts to these type of events.

Did I just hear a gasp from the IBT offices?
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I've been giving this matter more thought and have come to the realization that it's pretty stupid for an RV camping club to even have a dress code.
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