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Old 11-11-2015, 04:18 PM   #169
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Quote - I know of an officer who was criticized for wearing a sleveless blouse at a meeting --snip -- I met someone who told me -- snip -- They brought a bottle of wine with them to dinner -- snip -- were treated like they had broken the law. Unquote

What are the rules/laws of WBCCI International?
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:13 PM   #170
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:16 PM   #171
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What are the rules/laws of WBCCI International?
The so-called "Blue Book" which consists of the Constitution and Bylaws. Available for download from the WBCCI website in PDF format. Updated annually to reflect changes made at the International Rally.

Each Unit is supposed to have its own Constitution as well, which is updated every five years, and which is supposed to be made available to all Unit members. Sometimes the Unit Constitution is made available as a single hard-copy brought to the meetings, sometimes as an electronic file sent out to all members. Depends on the Unit.

Meetings are all supposed to be conducted in accordance with Robert's Rules of Order.

Change occurs with glacial slowness partly because WBCCI is not a democracy. It is a registered non-profit organization, and anyone in business knows that consistency is an important trait for any corporate entity. Change does happen, but it happens in small increments, and it's not because of who is in office. It's due to the rank-and-file members who file motions to have the Constitution and bylaws changed, and who take the time to work out the consequences and costs of those changes and can present their case well enough to get the members— and therefore their Unit delegates— to vote in favor.

Change happens from the bottom in WBCCI, not from the top, so if there's something you don't like about the way the club is run, do your research, come up with an alternative that 's better, and file a motion. Said motion will work its way up the pipe, and will get voted on. If the membership thinks it's a good idea and instructs their delegates to vote affirmative, the change will happen, regardless of what the club's officers personally think about it. Even the International President is still a member of a Unit, and within his Unit he has exactly one vote, just like the rest of us.

But don't ever think that the International Officers are the source of change in the club, or that they're opposed to change. They run the club, but it is the delegates voting— as directed by the members of their Units— on motions submitted by ordinary members, who actually effect change.
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Quote - I know of an officer who was criticized for wearing a sleveless blouse at a meeting --snip -- I met someone who told me -- snip -- They brought a bottle of wine with them to dinner -- snip -- were treated like they had broken the law. Unquote

What are the rules/laws of WBCCI International?
The quotes you snipped have nothing to do with the written rules of the club. We all know that there are folks from time to time that say things that because of their position may be interpreted as rules, or even some that try to use their position to put forth their personal desires making them appear as rules.

I have no idea if either of these scenarios apply in this case because I was not there, but one should not convict an entire organization because of the actions of one or a few. No organization, especially not a volunteer run organization can control the actions of all its members.

Try to see the bigger picture and take the good with the bad. We all have different experiences and different preferences and beliefs. We will not all ever agree on everything.

Many of us enjoy much about the club without having to like everything about it or even like every member. You are always bound to like some folks better than others. Best to try it a few times for yourself than to make decisions based upon a few comments on a forum.
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:22 PM   #173
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AV and Pro - thanks for the info. Bluebook is not downloading for me. I'll try again later. Pat
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:41 PM   #174
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The quotes you snipped have nothing to do with the written rules of the club. --- snip --- Best to try it a few times for yourself than to make decisions based upon a few comments on a forum.
Decision made. Joined - BYCCI #14711. Certainly understand the points offered. Intent is to understand the organization and the mores in play. Thanks for the help. Pat
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Decision made. Joined - BYCCI #14711. Certainly understand the points offered. Intent is to understand the organization and the mores in play. Thanks for the help. Pat
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Wow! This is a fascinating thread! I joined WBCCI a few months ago as an RV newbie and an Airstream wannabe. I was so very excited to receive my official number (3264). It marked an important milestone in my journey. Shortly after that I received a warm welcome from the New England Unit (NEU) with a goody bag of additional member materials.

I knew I would need to learn a lot prior to purchasing my Airstream in order to be a safe and responsible travel trailer owner. It is said, “We all need a village” to be good at what we do. Quickly, I learned the NEU is chock full of wonderful members who embrace the “pay forward” approach to sharing their knowledge. Seemed as though every day I was obtaining more and more great ideas. Although I knew my lack of an Airstream would inhibit my joining in on caravans and rallies, I was OK with that since I thought it might be acceptable to drop by some day with a six pack of beer and a bottle of wine to just say hello and thank them all for their kindness. After all, I owe two members beer for sharing their checklists.

What I did not realize at the time was how I had inadvertently stepped in a pile of poop. See the WBCCI bylaws are very clear. You need to own an Airstream in order to join WBCCI and a local unit. The WBCCI corporate office was very clear in stating in an email to me, “Our club’s bylaws state very clearly to qualify as a member of the WBCCI is an adult who owns a hard sided recreational vehicle manufactured by Airstream.” They had made an error in processing my application. I could see the humor in feeling like, “Jed Clampett from The Beverly Hillbillies arrives at WBCCI”! Currently, I am returning all member materials and looking forward to the day when I am a proud Airstreamer.

I guess in closing I have two messages to the gentle readers of this thread.
1. Please understand the bylaw requirement since it is important to WBCCI.
2. Give your local unit a try and you might just discover a group of warm and gracious members who are eager for your membership.

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What I did not realize at the time was how I had inadvertently stepped in a pile of poop. See the WBCCI bylaws are very clear. You need to own an Airstream in order to join WBCCI and a local unit. The WBCCI corporate office was very clear in stating in an email to me, “Our club’s bylaws state very clearly to qualify as a member of the WBCCI is an adult who owns a hard sided recreational vehicle manufactured by Airstream.” They had made an error in processing my application. I could see the humor in feeling like, “Jed Clampett from The Beverly Hillbillies arrives at WBCCI”! Currently, I am returning all member materials and looking forward to the day when I am a proud Airstreamer.

I guess in closing I have two messages to the gentle readers of this thread.
1. Please understand the bylaw requirement since it is important to WBCCI.
2. Give your local unit a try and you might just discover a group of warm and gracious members who are eager for your membership.

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Precisely why I dropped out of the WBCCI. One cannot respect an organization that does not properly follow their own bylaws. Even when confronted with their errors, they blithely continue on.
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Perhaps as an “epilogue” on my posting above, I honestly do not know if I will “rejoin” WBCCI when the time comes. I hope so, due to all the kind members I began to converse with via their Facebook page. I am a real dog lover and that unit has many dog lovers as well. Hey, what is not to like in that group!

I believe we all try to look at the big picture and decide for ourselves whether or not our inclusion in a group is a good fit. Give it a try or perhaps a retry!

By the way, I decided the best approach was to just step aside and seek a refund to my $85.00 dues payment. However, I was informed they would only reimburse me $65.00. Too bad, so sad!

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Precisely why I dropped out of the WBCCI. One cannot respect an organization that does not properly follow their own bylaws. Even when confronted with their errors, they blithely continue on.

OK, exactly where did they not follow their own bylaws? They made an error
and corrected the situation.

"blithely"? I had to google that! Yea, they didn't do that either.

As far as the refund, the $65 was the international dues. The remainder is the unit dues. I bet that would be refunded as well if you contact them.

Also, I'm betting absolutely no one would mind if you dropped in on a rally and sat by the campfire to talk. Especially if you bring the 6 pack!

I hope when you find your Airstream, you will join up.

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Warren - I'm in the NEU - we've talked and shared dog pics on the NEU FB page - just show up! You're looking for an Airstream and what better way to learn than to hang around with Aluminuts?

The rest is just paperwork. 😄
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Precisely why I dropped out of the WBCCI. One cannot respect an organization that does not properly follow their own bylaws. Even when confronted with their errors, they blithely continue on.
Huh? They followed the by laws correctly, it was the applicant that didn't read them before sending his app.
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