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Old 10-07-2015, 11:32 AM   #155
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When the WBCCI controversies raged, IBT members travel expenses were a big issue and then they increased the dues, and it got even nastier. I think that was mostly resentment about the IBT members' attitudes and policies. Money issues were an easy way to attack them.

If you've ever served on a board, you know it takes a lot of time and often costs quite a bit too. I think the travel thing was blown out of proportion. Dues are not very high for a nonprofit and perhaps people were judging the cost like we old people do ("I remember when dinner out cost 85˘…"). Neither were a reason we never joined—it was attitude and policies. Seems like the IBT has improved a lot and if the Club had been different eight years ago, maybe we would have joined. But the Forum is a club too and works fine for me—old line member organizations still face the competition of internet groups and that's not going to change.

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Old 10-07-2015, 05:45 PM   #156
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AirForums is not a club. AirForums is a forum. There are some people who frequent this forum who have get togethers. Airforums is nice to provide them free advertising.

WBCCI has a Jackson Center headquarters and sponsors local clubs, Region associations, and national rallies. They also publish a monthly magazine and coordinate national caravans that are conducted by volunteer leaders. There are also regional rallies and special event rallies sponsored by the national club.

Competitive clubs are Tin Can Tourists, Escapees, and Good Sam clubs, which are privately owned. The answer is to: use the services that serve your needs best, at the lowest cost.

Not everyone need to use a club to enjoy their Airstream.
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:53 PM   #157
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My husband and I are 2nd generation members of the Central Indiana Unit. WBCCI is the reason we bought an Airstream. The friendships and support we have found in this club are wonderful, and no matter how experienced you are there will always come a point where you need help from someone that has "been there". We offer rallies all over the country, national caravans and event rallies that are far cheaper than the for-profit caravans, free courtesy parking on members property, our club publication "The Blue Beret", and a network of great people. Of all of those the friendships are the most important. Our unit includes members in their eighties and three year olds. We have retirees, teenagers, and working families. I am very proud to say our rallies are a mixture of all of these - and we have a GREAT time! We ❤️ WBCCI!
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:55 PM   #158
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My wife is a third generation AS owner, but neither her parents or her grandparents were WBCCI members. We joined right away because my aunt and uncle were very active and loved the club. Plus, I love the big red numbers! Haven't done anything WBCCI in our year + of ownership, but are definitely going to the international rally in 2017!
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:39 PM   #159
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Smile The rest of the story

After contacting the WBCCI headquarters, they passed along our request for information to the Hudson-Mohawk Unit in upstate NY. The Hudson-Mohawk NY Unit President and 2nd Vice-President both took the time to send us information on their unit and made themselves available to answer any questions we had. After a telephone chat with the President and Treasurer, I had a good feeling about the unit and intend to send back our application for membership to the WBCCI next week and hope we can meet some members of the local unit soon. Thanks for all of your input !!!

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Old 11-06-2015, 12:25 AM   #160
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This is shaping up to be quite an adventure. After reading all 12 pages of this thread, we are certianly looking forward to the WBCCI.

Next Friday we will be picking up our first AS (2014 30' Flying Cloud) and have yet a different reason for joining the WBCCI. Looking back at old photographs of my grand parents' AS, we saw they were members. Upon contacting WBCCI membership, we found that thier old number (8356) was available. Come to find out, they were members from 1963 - 1981. So, our joining was purely out of nastalga. We actually joined last Friday once we were notified that our financing was approved - sight unseen.

Neither of us are "formal organization" kind of folks. Though my parents and grandparents were part of the Michigan Travel Trailer Club too, I have very little memory of the group from when I was very young. For the past two seasons we have had another brand travel trailer and are pretty good at camping on our own as we do almost every weekend during the summer season. We joke that we can only set the trailer if it is the two of us. Any other "help" just screws the whole thing up.

So here we are. We are members and have yet to even go to our first luncheon. Due to where we live, we decided to join the Metro Detroit Unit purely out of convenience. If it doesn't work out, there is always the NOVA group that appear to be quite progressive.

We certianly don't fit what we see as the typical WBCCI member profile. Though we have been a couple for several years, we are not married. I have teenage kids that are with us every other weekend. We are not religous (more athiest than anything else) and have no desire to deal with the burden of leadership outside of our jobs. We are very much younger working age and have very limited vacation time to do much other than weekend events.

As with many other things we have tried, we are joining with an open mind and eager to see all that the WBCCI has to offer for when we can participate. If nothing else, we now have Fred and Margorie's old number!
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:13 AM   #161
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Love your story, and Fred and Margorie would be happy, too.

You will like it.

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Old 11-08-2015, 07:47 PM   #162
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This is shaping up to be quite an adventure. After reading all 12 pages of this thread, we are certianly looking forward to the WBCCI.

Next Friday we will be picking up our first AS (2014 30' Flying Cloud) and have yet a different reason for joining the WBCCI. Looking back at old photographs of my grand parents' AS, we saw they were members. Upon contacting WBCCI membership, we found that thier old number (8356) was available. Come to find out, they were members from 1963 - 1981. So, our joining was purely out of nastalga. We actually joined last Friday once we were notified that our financing was approved - sight unseen.

Neither of us are "formal organization" kind of folks. Though my parents and grandparents were part of the Michigan Travel Trailer Club too, I have very little memory of the group from when I was very young. For the past two seasons we have had another brand travel trailer and are pretty good at camping on our own as we do almost every weekend during the summer season. We joke that we can only set the trailer if it is the two of us. Any other "help" just screws the whole thing up.

So here we are. We are members and have yet to even go to our first luncheon. Due to where we live, we decided to join the Metro Detroit Unit purely out of convenience. If it doesn't work out, there is always the NOVA group that appear to be quite progressive.

We certianly don't fit what we see as the typical WBCCI member profile. Though we have been a couple for several years, we are not married. I have teenage kids that are with us every other weekend. We are not religous (more athiest than anything else) and have no desire to deal with the burden of leadership outside of our jobs. We are very much younger working age and have very limited vacation time to do much other than weekend events.

As with many other things we have tried, we are joining with an open mind and eager to see all that the WBCCI has to offer for when we can participate. If nothing else, we now have Fred and Margorie's old number!
Welcome to WBCCI and the Metro-Detroit Unit. Lorrie and I are also members of the M-D unit (and NOVA) and although I recently retired, we too were working members when we joined.

In fact the Metro-Detroit Unit broke away from the Michigan Unit in 1973 to be more focused on weekend events for younger members, while the Michigan Unit at that time remained more focused on longer events for retirees. It appears that Fred and Marjorie were members of the Metro-Detroit Unit from the start. These days, M-D has a mix of working members and retirees.

As I mentioned in a reply to your post in the private Metro-Detroit forum, there is a unit luncheon this coming Saturday, November 14th in Farmington, MI. Send me an instant message and I can send you the details in case you'd want to come check it out. Or we can exchange phone numbers if you just want to talk.
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:24 AM   #163
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It appears that Fred and Marjorie were members of the Metro-Detroit Unit from the start. These days, M-D has a mix of working members and retirees.
It looks like we ran across the right person with you. With you being the historian, it is nice to hear about the history of my grandparents!

We will see you on Saturday at the luncheon. From the e-mail Susan sent yesterday, our packet should arrive by Tuesday so we will even have our badges!
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:06 PM   #164
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Why WBCCI

Caravans are great....the camaraderie of AS folks is warm and comfortable....the international and state gatherings have a bit of administrative politicking and vying for committees, but so what? The less attractive parts of the RVing are minimal in ASing. We picked a unit for terrific people, but see them only on caravans. Very small cost for nice returns.
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Old 11-10-2015, 06:42 PM   #165
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We have had our AS since early 2006 and considered joining WBCCI on a couple of different occasions. Primarily because of work obligations, we chose not to join. Now that retirement is planned at year's end, we are considering it once again. I'm thinking more available time and an opportunity to meet new folks with at least one similar interest may sway us to join.
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:38 PM   #166
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There are three WBCCI units in Illinois. Go to the WBCCI.org website or the region5.wbcci.net websites and find out which one would fit you needs best. I run the Northern Illinois website and am a past president of Northern. The other two units are a little closer to your home territory. Enjoy your retirement and your Airstream.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:29 PM   #167
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Well...I initially joined, not knowing a thing about the club, to find new places to camp. I have now participated in a National (International) Caravan, and a region rally as well as numerous unit rallies and have run about 5 unit rallies. Here is what it comes down to for ME, your experience may well vary. Please note that these are my personal observations, you will have to decide on your own.
I love my unit! That said, I dislike much of what I have experienced during my few experiences with International. Are there too many rules...yes. Is much of the club's culture "stuck in the 1950's"...yes.
I know of an officer who was criticized for wearing a sleveless blouse at a meeting during the international rally (it was a nice blouse and it was over 90 degrees and humid). I met someone who told me that he and his wife joined and went to their first event (not my unit). They brought a bottle of wine with them to dinner (you were supposed to bring your own beverage). He said they were treated like they had broken the law. They never went back.
The international club has its (significant) problems. That said, there are a few Units that are bucking the trend. My unit is one of those. We have members from their 20's to their 90's (one of our 90 year olds was at our last rally with his trailer). We are open and accepting of ALL. We are active and have grown rapidly.
I serve in an official capacity for our unit, but won't do so at any higher level because of the problems I have mentioned and some which would fall outside of the rules for participation in this forum.
So...what should you do? I can recommend going to a meeting, seeing what it is like and going from there. International is starting to at least hear some of these concerns and they can't help but notice the growth of those units that are more progressive contrary (or way in excess, depending on the year) to the overall club's growth or lack thereof. However change at the International level has been glacial in nature. The "establishment" is starting to age out and there is hope. It just will take a while...
Again the above is just my opinion, based on my experiences and some data from the club.
There are good folks everywhere, perhaps you will find some kindred souls in your local unit. Not much to lose by trying, I just want you to go in with your eyes open, and to know things are (albeit slowly) changing. I continue to enjoy being a member of my unit, so I continue to renew my membership.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:47 AM   #168
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We joined when I got the serial number of the trailer we ordered in October of 2012. We selected a local unit at random.Things happened during the year and we hardly got to use the trailer. I heard nothing from the unit until the renewal notice came out the following fall.

We heard of another unit and visited one of their rallies without the trailer as it was tied up at the dealership (long story) and liked the folks. We went to our first event in October 2013 at the Albuquerque Ballon Festival and met lots of great fellow Airstreamers. Many shared their experiences and we learned a lot.

We changed our membership to the other unit and started going to their events. We are hoping to enjoy more of those local unit events in the future.

We did the International in Farmington and were neutral in the experience. We probably would not go to another one unless it were relatively local.

I am glad that there are folks that want to be officers at the region and international level. For us, the local unit is where the fun is.

I had all the formality stuff I ever wanted in the military and have no interest in the WBCCI region or international politics.

We are signed up for the WBCCI Alaska Caravan in 2016 and will learn if we would like to do the caravan thing again.
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