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Old 08-09-2015, 10:41 AM   #141
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Some of them dismantled their trailers, and are taking a long time putting them back together.
not naming names.


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Old 09-28-2015, 03:20 PM   #142
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We have been tossing it back and forth as to joining the WBCCI, it doesn't appear to be as difficult as joining the HA MC but its early yet. Also, not a big fan of berets, unless they are Green, Maroon or Black but we think there are some good aspects of joining such as brand support, tech question support, part supplier/dealer location and feedback. I'm(James) not much of a people person but would help anyone in need, regardless of RV brand. We were hoping that the WBCCI would not be a snobby organization and supportive of RV'ing as a whole. Called the WBCCI National Headquarters, they were very helpful and are coordinating with a local unit(upstate NY) to get in contact with us and look forward to getting a "feel" of the organization at the local level. Anyone have a comparison of WBCCI and Good Sam? Thanks for your support...
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Old 09-28-2015, 03:41 PM   #143
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Anyone have a comparison of WBCCI and Good Sam? Thanks for your support...
The differences between the two clubs are greater than their similarities, but for me, one of the most telling difference is this:

Good Sam is a corporation with over 1600 employees, including paid CEO, CFO, and other officers, who administer the club on behalf of 1.7 million members who have little say in the day-to-day business of the club. The vast majority of the money taken in by the club is used to enrich the corporate coffers.

WBCCI is a non-profit organization, and is run by its 6000-odd members. Your membership buys you the right to vote on issues of importance to the club. WBCCI has only a handful of paid employees, most of whom are tasked with keeping the membership rolls up-to-date. The vast majority of the money taken in by the club is used to sponsor club events.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:25 PM   #144
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Consider joining the Escapees. No snobbery, local chapters throughout the USA, Canada & Mexico, rally's, Escapade makes the International pale by comparison. Add to that the system of campgrounds (reasonable fees), co-ops where you can "own" your lot (actually it is a 99-year lease). Sub-groups, called BOF's, by interest and much more. Oh, yes, their magazine rocks - best in the RV industry.
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:48 AM   #145
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Met with the Razorback chapter of WBCCI, very nice folks, not a single snob in the mix.

We are joining.


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Old 09-30-2015, 06:29 PM   #146
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Airstreams MSRP 44,384 to 155,060 USD.

WBCCI Membership $30 to 90 bucks (international)

trying to see the big picture here.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:24 PM   #147
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Goody packages, merit awards and recognition events, fund raisers, proceeds to be directed later, etc. There has to be some difference between the units that designate a nominal fee and those that charge the maximum. Perhaps members of each representative unit could give a reply as to what and where their dues go. Also perhaps there could be a response as to where the additional funds for a member at large with no unit affiliation goes and why that particular amount is designated, perhaps siting bylaws and not speculation of the incongruities across the board.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:26 AM   #148
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Remember that WBCCI is a not for profit club, but it IS a corporation and therefore must abide by rules put in place to make sure things go as the founding members designed.

Regions, and Units, have a maximum amount of $$$ they can have in their treasury. When/if their funds exceeds the max they reimburse the attendees or have a free rally or whatever they choose to bring the balance back down.

The treasury holds the funds to put on a rally. The rally fee, based on $$$ needed to put on the event, replaces those funds. No profit intended, and if profit is made, it will be redistributed back. Some rally's, both big and small, win.... some lose.

Remember also that WBCCI is an old- but-slowly -becoming -modern club which has been around much longer than the internet. Much of the $10 unit dues went to postage and paper supplies to keep members informed.

Now with paperless communication many Units can now have $1 dues.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:46 AM   #149
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WBCCI dues are charged by two organizations. The International HQ in Jackson Center has full time employees. The majority of the International dues pays their salaries+ benefits+ social security, plus the operating cost of the facility. Some international dues money is spend for travel for Region Officers.

Local Unit dues pay for operation of the unit. There are no paid employees in locals. Most money goes to cost of producing and distributing documents (hard copy) for the unit. Some units hire "Constant Contact" for newsletters and directories. Constant Contact charges $180/year for that service. For small units, that can be $5/member. Google offers competitive service for free. Some units contract for websites. That can add $. International offers wbcci.net sites to units for free.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:31 AM   #150
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The 4Corners Unit dues went up drastically for this coming year, doubled in fact, increased by 100%.

Why its up to $2.00 now.

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Old 10-01-2015, 02:24 PM   #151
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... and, the dues also cover "travel costs" for some officers ...
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... and, the dues also cover "travel costs" for some officers ...
SOME travel costs. Only for attendance at WBCCI events at which their attendance is mandatory or to which they've been specifically invited because they are IBT members; only going to the event, not going home from it; and unless they're excessively frugal nowhere near 100% of the cost even to get to the event.

There are people in the club— and former members of the club as well— who begrudge the IBT members even that level of reimbursement. But I don't think anyone becomes an IBT officer just for the travel reimbursement, because they're not going to break even, let alone make a profit on travel reimbursement during their tenure on the IBT.

And full disclosure, I'm not an IBT member and have no interest at all in ever being one, so I have no personal stake in that issue.
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Old 10-02-2015, 01:56 PM   #153
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"Anyone have a comparison of WBCCI and Good Sam?"

We are members of both. I never even thought they are similar enough to compare. Different things altogether. We belong to good Sam for the campground discounts and sometimes the on the road services. (but right now that is AAA for us) which we belong to also.

Our main interests with WBCCI are the local rallies and lunches and the national caravans. We are planning to go to the national meeting in West Virginia next year. I do not own and have not felt the need for a blue beret. I do have a long sleeve blue denim shirt with WBCCI and the local unit embroidered on it hanging in the trailer for chilly days.

Our local unit has several organized rallies each year with local tours and a couple of group meals. We are a small but pretty friendly unit.

The way I feel about the national organization and the IBT is that somebody has to do that but thank goodness it is not me. They do a somewhat difficult job for nothing and somebody is always unhappy with them.
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They do a somewhat difficult job for nothing and somebody is always unhappy with them.
As the saying goes… "Do your job and everyone hates you. Do your job well and everyone hates you equally."
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