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Old 01-03-2008, 05:33 AM   #29
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I think it's unfair to even NEED a term to use when lumping all of the old members together. Why do they need to be lumped together anyway? There are a lot of people in the club who are older than me, some who have been in it forever, some who just joined, some who care a great deal about the club, and some who just go to an occasional rally, some who are open and welcoming to new members and new ideas, and some who are a bit more set in their ways. How can you cover these people with one banner?

An "us vs them" attitude does nothing to help the club, or to get what you want done. There is no need to lump everyone together under one label. How about we just continue to treat everyone as individuals, respectfully, and with an open and positive attitude?

Plus I don't think 'ancient' really describes most of the people I've met in the WBCCI - many are older than me, but they're still more active than I am! I sure hope I'm still active & traveling when I am in my 70's & 80's like many of them are!

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Old 01-03-2008, 07:55 AM   #30
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I would have go along with Shari.
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #31
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Great First Post - Welcome to the AirForums. I know a few Seniors that qualify for that title.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:18 PM   #32
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Hi Stephanie,

Thanks for the Karma! You know what my first thought was, don’t you? Actually, it explains a lot. The Ancients aren’t missing; they are on an extended inter-galactic caravan. Checked out your batboat blog. Interesting color history. I kind of like the two-tone blue look. Paler shades, but still somewhat reminiscent of the stripes on the side of my Excella.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:45 PM   #33
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Why not just "senior members?"

Even though becoming a senior can have it's health issues, being called a "senior," and respected as one, is a little nicer that "Mr. or Mrs."

Our country recognizes seniors in many ways, and I think we, as WBCCI members, should stay with that.

Some of our younger members, don't know and won't know what it's like to a "senior," until they get there, and hopefully their health will permit them to do that.

Most seniors have made many accomplishments in our society in their younger days, and some still do, so lets just be polite, and respectful, to all seniors, club members or not. As far as I am concerned, they deserve it.

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Old 01-03-2008, 07:10 PM   #34
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Why is there all this talk about the elders ?

I hope to live to see my 70-80's.

I'm just 41.
My father died much to young at 64.

My oldest uncle is 87, elders do and most of the time deserve the respect.

Just listen to them speak of the way things used to be in the "good ole days"

Fascinating stories!

Only a few years ago, students started calling me sir at work.

That was hard to get used to.

I guess I'm not a kid anymore...
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:19 PM   #35
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American Indian culture teaches respect for your elders; they have the knowledge of experience and the wisdom of what traditions are of value.

When I was a child I saw no value in the elderly member's beliefs. My generation was the first to discover sex, drugs and rock and roll (music).

As time passed I discovered I was more like my elders....I hate the noise of "rap music". 1960's thru 1970's rock and roll is now elevator music. And the values my grandparents believed in are as true as ever...Except...

Except I wore a beret in the U.S. Military in the earily 1970's.....and the WDCCI berets look goofy. I refuse to wear one...under any penality. Ha
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:26 AM   #36
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Except I wore a beret in the U.S. Military in the earily 1970's.....and the WDCCI berets look goofy. I refuse to wear one...under any penalty. Ha
Thank you for wearing the beret in the service of our country.

The Ancients I'm referring to are being grouped as ancients not for their chronological age but for their archaic demands on making us to conform to their ways.
Case in point their demands on YOU to wear a beret.

Ancients has nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing to do with AGE, it is an attitude and a demanding one at that!

I absolutely respect my elders I take offense to anyone suggesting other wise.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:06 AM   #37
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The Ancients I'm referring to are being grouped as ancients not for their chronological age but for their archaic demands on making us to conform to their ways...Ancients has nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing to do with AGE, it is an attitude and a demanding one at that!
Rather than The Ancients, perhaps Luddite would be a better term? There's no age limit on being a Luddite.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:36 AM   #38
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Okay here are my .02, I'm a new WBCCI member, we just moved up to a Airstream in October 2007(we had a cute Thor T@B teardrop trailer previously). So we where exctied to find a airstream club. But now that we are members it's very obvious that our age group ( I just turned 40 this year) isn't the core of WBCCI, if your not retired and 65+ then the club isn't for you. But to be fair, we haven't attend any rallys or events yet, but from receiving our units membership roster it looks like we are youngest members!!

I haven't given up yet, and every Airstreamer we have met has been super nice and helpful. We are planning on doing a rally or two this summer.

But I would agree with some other comments that people have made. Airstream is selling to a new customer base, models like the CCD (which we have) are attracting a new breed of younger owners. If the stats are true and only 18% of sales are to WBCCI members then where are these other 82%??

I'm taking a wait and see attitude, I'm going to do a few events before I complain about anything. The only comparision I can make is with the Porsche Club of America (PCA), which I'm a member of and have been active with the local region for over 10 years. PCAs moto is simple "It's not the cars, it's the people" and I'm hopeful the same is true for WBCCI.

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Old 01-04-2008, 11:30 AM   #39
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Damon,

You are dead on with your Porsche club motto of it being about the people and not the cars. Same with my car club - the cars are the common thread that got us together but it's all about the people. And that's what WBCCI is.

It is a huge accomplishment for any car, trailer, widget or whatever club to have survived over 50 years. The torch will soon be passed on to others as the current executive work their way through the system. We owe them a round of applause and a thank you for keeping the club alive so far.

I'm glad you joined WBCCI. We need more 20, 30 and 40 year old people joining and making sure they have voting privileges so we can drive the change needed.

It's important for us to vote in executive who will work for change. We need to do it in a manner that is respectful, professional, and willing to blend the new with the history of the club. That history is a key component of what makes WBCCI so unique. As with any evolution (versus revolution) these things take not just time but participants willing to step forward and work the system patiently to create the change needed.

Relative to you I'm an older guy but I can assure you mentally I'm still thinking I can do what I was doing when I was half my age - much to my wife's dismay I might add. I am hopeful that today and in twenty years people won't look at a body that is obviously well used and abused but instead will only see the twinkle in my eyes, the laughter lines imprinted on my face, and a mind and attitude that have always been "can do" and in learning mode. I may be set in my ways somewhat, but that's just because I'm comfortable. I can get over that with some good natured ribbing.

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Old 01-04-2008, 12:58 PM   #40
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Those unit leaders that tell members their kids are too noisy, please don't return to the
That right there will keep new blood from joining the wbcci. As a new Airstreamer, if I wanted that kind of treatment I'd go visit a mobile home retirement village in Hemet.

Most parents do their very best to keep their kids quiet, but it's practically possible, and traveling is miserable for the kids if not allowed to have fun. The Geezers... er Elders need to remember this.

On the other hand, yes, screaming yelling kids at all hours of the day ( & night) can get quite annoying. That's one of the reasons we don't go to big RV parks. Perhaps the solution would be to have segregated areas where those that don't want to deal with screaming all day can be in a buffered quiet zone. Maybe this is done.. I don't know... I haven't been.

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Old 01-04-2008, 01:46 PM   #41
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As a proud member of the WBCCI and most importantly the New England Unit, I am happy to say that during our last official rally of the season for '07 we had five new families join as members. Most of those new members are in the 30 Something group with young children, HURRAY! Every family member gets a name badge and is a valued member of our unit. Sure, we enjoy our adult activities and happy hour but it is a joy to plan events for the younger members. The future of WBCCI is what we make it today.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:17 PM   #42
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I was rather rude to Ed Emerick for blasting the entrenched of the WBCCI, which was pretty unfair to him on my part. I was politly corrected by a mod, and did apologize. But I still don't understand the animosity towrds this group of people. It is basicly their club, they made it what it is, and we'll make it what we want it to be. We are enjoying the legacy that they created. How will we leave it for the next generation?

I find this similar to growing up in the 60s and 70s, hating what America had become. Now that my generation are our nations leaders, it's is not what I envisioned how we would remake it, not at all.

On my list of things to worry about:

I can't bribe anyone to help me put on my WBCCI numbers, I'll get em crooked.

Pondering how the earth tilted since I bought my AS, my eggs run to one side of the frying pan now.

Loving children (especially with salt and pepper).

How I can stop my AS from squeeking so much, what my neighbors must think!
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