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Old 04-07-2006, 05:35 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Slate of WBCCI Officers for 2006-7 What if we said "NO"

Have you noticed how little we know about the people who are nominated to the IBT offices? We get a resume, but what do we really know about them? How they feel about our club, the name change, the declining membership?

Well after looking at the 3rd resume I have been sent as a Unit President asking for my vote I decided to ask. I have e-amiled several potential officers

The next question is what if I don't like their response? What if I shared the response with others? What if we said no I don't think you will move the club successfully into the future. What would happen then? Would the nominating committee have to search for someone who suits us?

What and interesting thought...
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Have you noticed how little we know about the people who are nominated to the IBT offices? We get a resume, but what do we really know about them? How they feel about our club, the name change, the declining membership?

Well after looking at the 3rd resume I have been sent as a Unit President asking for my vote I decided to ask. I have e-amiled several potential officers

The next question is what if I don't like their response? What if I shared the response with others? What if we said no I don't think you will move the club successfully into the future. What would happen then? Would the nominating committee have to search for someone who suits us?

What and interesting thought...
WOW! Great question!!! This one will have me thinking for a while.
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:08 PM   #3
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Again, a set of hypotheticals that revolve around the responsibilities of the individual members. The answers are simple.

|If you don't like their response?| Don't vote for them.

|Share a response with others?| Isn't it your duty to civily discuss the qualifications, credentials, and opinions of your association's potential leadership with other members?

|What if I said no?| Voting (having a say) is a right of membership. It goes with the responsibility of accepting the outcome of the vote whether or not you voted in the minority or majority.

|Search for someone who suits us?| This is undertaking the global 'we' as in 'versus them' which is a cancer in an association. There are appropriate ways defined by the associations rules and policies that you should follow. Work with people to become a member of the nominations committee or run your own campaign or join the campaign of those who do 'suit you.'

Membership is not something done to you. Leadership is not annointed. This is an association of its members. As a member you can take the responsible route and become involved for appropriate and proper change working with the other members - or - you can isolate yourself, denigrate other members with whom you disagree, foster discontent, and generally work to destroy your association.

If you don't like something, lead for change. Do so responsibly by positive change in educating other members about the value of your views and helping them use the decision process of the association for change.

Carping, conspiracy mongering, ad hominem, segregating populations and other destructive tactics are not those I would recommend.

Doing as you have done - asking questions, communicating, learning about who wants to lead, and fostering discussion - these seem like a good idea to me if they are kept positive and within the established rules and procedures of the association.
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Again, a set of hypotheticals that revolve around the responsibilities of the individual members. The answers are simple.

|If you don't like their response?| Don't vote for them.

|Share a response with others?| Isn't it your duty to civily discuss the qualifications, credentials, and opinions of your association's potential leadership with other members?

|What if I said no?| Voting (having a say) is a right of membership. It goes with the responsibility of accepting the outcome of the vote whether or not you voted in the minority or majority.

|Search for someone who suits us?| This is undertaking the global 'we' as in 'versus them' which is a cancer in an association. There are appropriate ways defined by the associations rules and policies that you should follow. Work with people to become a member of the nominations committee or run your own campaign or join the campaign of those who do 'suit you.'

Membership is not something done to you. Leadership is not annointed. This is an association of its members. As a member you can take the responsible route and become involved for appropriate and proper change working with the other members - or - you can isolate yourself, denigrate other members with whom you disagree, foster discontent, and generally work to destroy your association.

If you don't like something, lead for change. Do so responsibly by positive change in educating other members about the value of your views and helping them use the decision process of the association for change.

Carping, conspiracy mongering, ad hominem, segregating populations and other destructive tactics are not those I would recommend.

Doing as you have done - asking questions, communicating, learning about who wants to lead, and fostering discussion - these seem like a good idea to me if they are kept positive and within the established rules and procedures of the association.
I'm not sure I'm understanding your message here. I'm looking to communicate, ask questions, and foster discussion. Are you saying I'm carping and not steping up to the plate?
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Put your name in the hat. The club needs motived officers.
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Have you noticed how little we know about the people who are nominated to the IBT offices? We get a resume, but what do we really know about them? How they feel about our club, the name change, the declining membership?

Well after looking at the 3rd resume I have been sent as a Unit President asking for my vote I decided to ask. I have e-amiled several potential officers

The next question is what if I don't like their response? What if I shared the response with others? What if we said no I don't think you will move the club successfully into the future. What would happen then? Would the nominating committee have to search for someone who suits us?

What and interesting thought...
I agree this is valuable thinking. Can you tell me who gets a resume? presidents, do members get to view such? Wouldn't it be great to have permanent space online to view positions, credentials, and post questions directly? Information should be included as well in every newsletter and BB. Those not willing to be subject to the public eye, need not apply.
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Yes, do regular members have any say who get's elected at this level??
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The presidents get the resumes with a request to read and present them to the club members. The members vote on the candidates. If there is a split vote the delegate from that club must vote as did the club directed. Each member in the club has one vote, these votes are and will be counted at the International meeting. The candidate with the most votes wins. Everyone has a vote and your vote will be counted.
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I have a vote on the delegates, and the presidents have a resume but I must wait for the presidents to present me with that same information? Will I have as long to consider my choice as do officers? Why have I never heard any thing of this?
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:10 PM   #10
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Put your name in the hat. The club needs motived officers.
I appreciate your support but my name is already in the hat! I'm my Unit's President as I already mentioned, I do the newsletter, I'm our Region Chairperson for 2007, I initiated the community project our club does each year, my husband and I ran 2 rallies last year and and will run 4 this year. He is Membership Chair. It would be a mistake to underestimate my devotion to this club AND my awareness of what others do for the club.

I have attended several Internationals and the older people who are running the show are putting their heart and souls into it. They are the ones stepping up to do the club work and I go to the International with an open mind and a grateful heart. It is what it is. I believe the work at the grassroots level will be rewarded with new members so that is where my contribution to the club lies.

I do however think we need to look at who is at the top and get to know them so that we can be sure they are open to change, open minded and are looking toward the future and even a bit creative and can bring positive changes where needed.

I think I was just commenting on the fact that we don't really know them. I think we should that is why I e-mailed them and asked very specific questions that I hope they respond to and that will be shared with my members in May.
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Resumes are posted in the April Blue Beret for your review. Voting usually takes place for most units in May. There may be a discussion of the candidates and the resolutions that are to come up at the deligate's meeting in June in Salem. The deligates are actually appointed usually by the local president and told to closely follow the outcome of the vote in your local elections. The deligates are not to have an agenda of their own. The deligate casts the unit votes (number of members paying international dues thru that unit) either as a block or apprortioned as the local unit decides.
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I agree this is valuable thinking. Can you tell me who gets a resume? presidents, do members get to view such? Wouldn't it be great to have permanent space online to view positions, credentials, and post questions directly? Information should be included as well in every newsletter and BB. Those not willing to be subject to the public eye, need not apply.
Thank you Carol!!!!!

i was wondering now that the International group is working hard to put things on-line if a "forum" could be developed where we could communicate with the canidates!!!!

Thank you for your imput. I would like to work with people in the club to see if this could be achieved. Any ideas on how to go about it?

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Resumes are posted in the April Blue Beret for your review. Voting usually takes place for most units in May. There may be a discussion of the candidates and the resolutions that are to come up at the deligate's meeting in June in Salem. The deligates are actually appointed usually by the local president and told to closely follow the outcome of the vote in your local elections. The deligates are not to have an agenda of their own. The deligate casts the unit votes (number of members paying international dues thru that unit) either as a block or apprortioned as the local unit decides.
Thank you for your response. May I ask how a president goes about finding THE delegate without an agenda? (Sounds like that could have formerly been me ) How is one's aganda established? What is one's agenda held up against as a measure? Are you implying a delegate can vote their own conscience and not the unit's vote?
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Thank you Carol!!!!!

i was wondering now that the International group is working hard to put things on-line if a "forum" could be developed where we could communicate with the canidates!!!!

Thank you for your imput. I would like to work with people in the club to see if this could be achieved. Any ideas on how to go about it?

The WBCCI forum is live and in place. Seems it could be posted this evening. New general thread then e-mail candidates and ask them to post a thread under their name starting a parallel thread linking to the main introduction thread. Let them introduce themselves and then let the discussion begin, unit by unit, delegate by delegate.

Secondarily it could be refined along the way, but as I have heard Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker---no wait wrong quote. well you get the idea...
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