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Old 02-20-2010, 07:51 PM   #15
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So...the plan is to have the club membership sue the club leaders? And this will somehow resolve the financial situation WBCCI is in?

I'm sorry - this lawsuit doesn't make a lot of sense to me, even after reading this thread twice. Could someone please explain it again? It seems, even if this potential lawsuit is successful, you still have many of the same problems in WBCCI...now with higher dues to pay the legal bills.

Why not instead collect money to help start a new club?
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Old 02-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #16
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Skater I agree, lets all move forward in a positive way.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:00 PM   #17
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You need to read a lot more than this thread to understand the basis.

Perhaps speak to Paul in your unit.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:05 PM   #18
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so let me understand this... THEY do not want him so he should sue to get back in because if he does suddenly they will want him in?
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:06 PM   #19
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IMHO: A court of law enforces justice -- clearly, precisely and within limits.
If one think the rules and policies of a club are legally unfair one might have a difficult argument. Be prepared.
A fraternal or social club, or a religious group unlike justice does not have precise limits.

Once you start, where will you stop?
Once the lawyers get involved where will they stop?
Once the law gets involved where will the law stop?
What is your event horizon?
Risks vs. benefits?
How deep are your pockets?

I don't know if this is the best way to proceed.
What does Leo say? Others must know.
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:12 PM   #20
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No I think its about trying to show the IBT that the members no longer support their representation and actions. Going outside the WBCCI is the only way those members who would like some satisfaction, win or lose, can make a statement. That is my opinion of what is happening. The defense is for member rights and the objection to the subjectivity and bias of the leadership and their dereliction of duties and their misappropriate actions.
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:39 PM   #21
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The defense is for member rights and the objection to the subjectivity and bias of the leadership and their dereliction of duties and their misappropriate actions.
I think I get your point: Use Leo as Clarence Darrow (and the ACLU) used John Scopes in a test case.
As you may recall the objective was to challenge the State’s law. You know the rest.

Yea, good idea, history and a precedent was set and this might be a good plan.

But John Scopes agreed to play to defendant’s role because he had already made plans to move on anyway.
Mr. Scopes wasn’t going to hang around that town and continue teaching.
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:22 PM   #22
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When it becomes (more) apparent that this is the only option for a fair resolution I would donate to such a fund
Ditto from me, I'll donate my $65 renewal if this becomes the apparent end game.
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:30 AM   #23
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WELL SAID FRED!!!

I'M IN FOR $100 !!!!!

Lew

Ditto, I'm in for $100 - just to start - more if needed.

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Old 02-21-2010, 02:33 PM   #24
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OK - so the question is when and where do we send in the $$$. What is the next step? You can email me the details privately if you want - I am in on this and am prepared to back it up.....
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:46 PM   #25
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Thanks for your interest, but the time to accept funds has not yet ripened.

First I wanted to see if I could get enough pledges posted here or PM'd.

At the rate we're going in 24 hours almost $2,000 is very promising indeed.

I think by the later part of next week we'll have a better idea.

If it looks good a Paypal Trust account can be setup and a mailing address for those who wish to do it that way can be done.

Can you make up a little banner and see if we can get it posted here and Save Wally?


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Glad to hear the effort is going so well. It appears you may be finally communicating in the language the IBT ultimately understands. Guess we can just circumvent the communications chairman and forward looking 2020 committee chairmen that have been put into place as figureheads in an effort to appease the masses. How does a self ingratiating clique of elitists come to terms with a judicial action pending upon their protectionist decisions to charge the general membership for their ever increasing privileged benefits and stranglehold upon the WBCCI and draining its resources, sharing only incomplete and skewed financial reports? Stay tuned...

We will not let them silence and shoot the messenger!
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How do they comes to terms with a lawsuit.........................

Like a deer in the headlights?



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Old 02-21-2010, 08:24 PM   #28
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Though I think the IBT/EC7 will go down fighting, put me in for $100.

Remember, they have very deep pockets of "your" cash to fight this in court.
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