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Old 04-06-2011, 01:01 AM   #29
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...No, what we're all waiting for is the 1st big hit (if it happens sooner than later), the withdrawal of the VAC. The VAC is going to make a decision to split from the wbcci. ...(that will be tragic).

Right now there are more people outside the VAC that would join an independent VAC type club than there are inside the VAC. It's just a matter of time. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a whole bunch of past wbcci VAC leaders aren't already making plans for an independent vintage club....
Sign me up!!!

Forrest, too cool, dude. See you in Airstream Life...

Too cool, too, Mr. Yensan and Buttercup.

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:20 AM   #30
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I personally would love to see the VAC break-off, I'd send in my past dues now if that was the case. One has to ask, is the WBCCI dragging down the VAC or is the VAC helping to hold up the WBCCI?

I understand Forrest leaving and will be right behind him at the end off this year from the looks of it.

One does not need the WBCCI to have a good time. I know we already have a 7-10 day caravan of vintage trailers planned up historic Rt. 11 from Bristol, TN to 1000 Island, NY without the help or rules of the WBCCI in mid-late June.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:01 AM   #31
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One has to ask, is the WBCCI dragging down the VAC or is the VAC helping to hold up the WBCCI?
The answer is YES
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:31 AM   #32
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Something I think you all should know - I'm not tring to support one side or another by saying this - the WBCCI or any club that anyone forms will be exempt from taxes under IRS code 501(c)(7) - which by code definition is a social club....

Again - I don't want to stir the pot - just provide some information for this discussion that I do think is relavent in going forward.

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Old 04-06-2011, 12:24 PM   #33
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:34 PM   #34
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Forrest's effort to enable change was the mightiest yet and obviously the most threatening to the status quo. As a 15 year and out member who witnessed first hand the treatment of the VAC by successive IBT's which looked askance at us as if we were roaches, or something to be kept under the stairs, it is no surprise to me that he came to this difficult conclusion and decsion. I'm also certain that Rick Davis well recalls his time as VAC President when we waited for nearly half a day to hear from the IBT if we could even enter the International Rally.
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:49 PM   #35
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I personally would love to see the VAC break-off, I'd send in my past dues now if that was the case.
I would too. Even at the current rate.
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I hate to see this turn into a hijack

BUT it the VAC goes independent, I'm in!
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:48 PM   #37
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Forrest's effort to enable change was the mightiest yet and obviously the most threatening to the status quo. As a 15 year and out member who witnessed first hand the treatment of the VAC by successive IBT's which looked askance at us as if we were roaches, or something to be kept under the stairs, it is no surprise to me that he came to this difficult conclusion and decsion. I'm also certain that Rick Davis well recalls his time as VAC President when we waited for nearly half a day to hear from the IBT if we could even enter the International Rally.
"When the music's over, turn out the lights."
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the Rick Davis (of Tennessee) in post # 35 this thread is NOT the same Rick Davis that was VAC President awhile back. If in fact that was who you were referring to.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the Rick Davis (of Tennessee) in post # 35 this thread is NOT the same Rick Davis that was VAC President awhile back. If in fact that was who you were referring to.
You are hereby corrected. In fact, if you will go back to post #35 you will note that Rick lists his VAC past president status in his signature block.
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The Rick Davis in post 35 is the same one that is was VAC prez for the Burlington, VT rally in 2003.

My recollection of the parking fiasco there was not a problem with the IBT but rather an overloaded parker situation due to a couple incoming caravans arriving late. None the less we were all left sitting for quite a long time before we were able to leave the school ground.

So far as I know I am the only Rick Davis in the club.
There was another one here in Jamestown and it did get interesting when he died a few years ago
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:04 PM   #40
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The "PP VAC" mean "Past Prez Vintage Airstream Club".

Hunt was right.


By the way Rick, that was my first International Rally, I had a ball, lots of fun park over in the back.






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I've never met Forrest nor Patrice (offline) and more than likely will never have that honor. As others have said - what a sad loss.

Will the power hungry big guys at the top of the WBCCI notice his departure, or care at all? Silly question. Just one less well educated moderate voice advocating for change within the Club - to the advantage of members. Simply put, this huge loss to our Club only amounts to one less voice for them to keep on their lawyer's damn warning list. Butt - I do firmly do believe that "what goes around comes around". It may take some time, but one day their comeuppance will smash their inflated egos.

Rant is now over, for now.
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Wow, it seems like there is so much that I as a simple WBCCI member just simply do not know about and/or understand. A lot of the BS I do hear about reminds me so much of the Masonic infighting I have been dealing with for years. Generally, it comes down to people want the grandeur and respect they feel everyone before them had... but oftentimes don't realize that times have changed and the current membership (younger and not taken with how things were done before) doesn't care for the same things.

Anyway, I love my Airstream moho, I love my family, I love my country, and I just want to enjoy all of them together as much as I can....

Will the WBCCI help me do that? I don't know after looking at the schedule for the upcoming Int'l Rally.
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