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Old 03-29-2010, 01:45 PM   #15
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Well I went back and took a good listen to the June 26, 2007 WBCCI IBT Executive and Board Meeting when the VAC report was being given.
Carol,

Thanks for linking that clip... I listened to it many times when it was first broadcast and thanks to your post, I've listened to it again.

In the context of the current IBT/EC7 mess, the fact that the nominating committee would consider Mr. Heyde to be qualified for this position shows their disdain for the general membership. This man is the personification of the failings of the current club. With a membership of 6000... this is the best they can do? Mr Heyde has disqualified himself for leadership of this club by his own actions toward the general membership. To ignore this fact is nothing less than approval of his earlier actions.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:22 AM   #16
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I listen to this and all I hear is Stuffed Shirt... All I hear is that WBCCI leadership wants to be revered and viewed as the almighty.
When that is actually earned, it will be given. It has not been earned yet.
Ed, you have my vote!
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:21 PM   #17
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OK so if I post my resume and pay the $300 bucks (thanks for the offers to help pay but I got it covered) do I have to be in Gillette to make this work? I am booked over the IBT rally this year.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:02 PM   #18
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OK so if I post my resume and pay the $300 bucks... do I have to be in Gillette to make this work?
Ed... if you managed to win a spot without even being there you'd have the IBT folks spitting blood. Feel free to give it a shot.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:32 PM   #19
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I would try

Ed,

I don’t think you have a chance of getting the votes “this year”. Trying is worth doing. But I would start getting the word out for “next year” the day after the so called elections.

Of the different people out there, you have one of the best chances of making it happen.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:41 PM   #20
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Ed,

I don’t think you have a chance of getting the votes “this year”. Trying is worth doing. But I would start getting the word out for “next year” the day after the so called elections.

Of the different people out there, you have one of the best chances of making it happen.

Ya know that is what Sandy said tonight. I would be more than willing to do that. Now how do we make that happen? AND who will join me?

What she really said was lets get a whole Board for 2011.............
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Old 03-30-2010, 08:26 PM   #21
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Ya know that is what Sandy said tonight. I would be more than willing to do that. Now how do we make that happen? AND who will join me?

What she really said was lets get a whole Board for 2011.............
We're behind you Ed! Would love to see you take this all the way!! We'd be happy to help vote you in...
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Hi Ed

You have to get in touch with Leo G. He tried for several years and even paid the ad fee only to have the IP rule it not printable. He will get it at this address.
savewally@gmail.com

Sorry but you are really looking at next year as the filing date has passed. The clowns have set all kinds of road blocks and if they fail they rule you Out of ORDER. Take the year and with luck things will have changed if we succeed in court.

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Need web infrastructure? You got it, gratis.

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Since there is only 1 candidate for each position there is no need for a vote as the only votes that count are the 3 from the Nominating Committee. I would suggest that all units should abstain when asked for their votes, just to show how much of a farce this has become.

Sorry I can't include two quotes since Carol so quickly gets to the root of the problem. I keep telling Richard we have to come out to Michigan and get together.

I have been in the club for 10 years or more and it is always just one candidate per position.

It's how they get away with perpetuating the madness. You go for it ED!

I like reading the résumé’s. No stars here.

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Ed,

Since “Mr. Hyde” brought the subject up during his smack down session to Shari Davis in Perry GA, maybe it’s time the subject is brought up again.

Should the WBCCI VAC think about breaking away from the WBCCI? Let’s think about it, if the VAC increased their dues to just half one has to pay to belong to current belong to both ($20.00+27.50=47.50) the VAC could offer many things to its membership that it cannot currently. Maybe a subscription to Airstream Life, a Vintage Rally that could blow your socks off, etc…

Did the VAC see the problem with the management of the WBCCI coming many years ago? Maybe we did and just did not know it.
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Rivet Interesting, very interesting....

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Ed,

Since “Mr. Hyde” brought the subject up during his smack down session to Shari Davis in Perry GA, maybe it’s time the subject is brought up again.

Should the WBCCI VAC think about breaking away from the WBCCI? Let’s think about it, if the VAC increased their dues to just half one has to pay to belong to current belong to both ($20.00+27.50=47.50) the VAC could offer many things to its membership that it cannot currently. Maybe a subscription to Airstream Life, a Vintage Rally that could blow your socks off, etc…

Did the VAC see the problem with the management of the WBCCI coming many years ago? Maybe we did and just did not know it.
I just might consider rejoining the VAC if something like this actually occurred........
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Did the VAC see the problem with the management of the WBCCI coming many years ago? Maybe we did and just did not know it.
In my opinion what the VAC saw all these years was to many rules and restrictions.
Indirectly this was probably an indicator of what was coming, examples being all the required travel with the expense that goes with it, the grievance situation etc.
The VAC has tended to ignore or make end runs around some of these "we have always done it this way" things and thus aroused the anger of some ( Mr Heyde) in positions of authority. Others simply recognized the VAC as the unique group it is.

With the amount of time the parent organization can waste on emblem and flag approvals, badge protocol etc it is a wonder anything ever gets done. Certainly nothing gets done in a timely manner
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