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Old 11-18-2005, 08:07 AM   #15
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Chris, In your case, for WBCCI #4503 I find:

1981 - Walter & Helen Boronda - Lakeside, CA
1989 & 1991 - George & Lorna Coburn - Mound City, KS
1993 - unsued
1994 & 1995 - Henry & Willia Rapp - Campbell, CA
2001 - unused
2004 & 2005 - Michael & Marianne Keith - New Florence, MO

Another "well used" number!
So am I right about the number being attached to the member and not the trailer? If so, the above would be a history of the folks who owned the number and not a history of who owned the trailer right? Oh, my head hurts!
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:24 AM   #16
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Ben, you are correct. The number really has gotten around and not necessarily that particular trailer unless one of the members bought a trailer that had that number on it and they renewed the number under their name. Now go take some aspirin and lie down.

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Old 11-18-2005, 11:16 AM   #17
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Unfortunately, as I noted earlier, #3313 is currently assigned to someone else in WBCCI. You'll have to wait until 2 years after they release the number to get it, unless you can get them to tell the WBCCI that they will release the number to you and that they will not renew their claim to it.
LOL... so it sounds like right around the time I finish restoring my trailer the numbers might be available, perfect!

Also, there aren't any "existing" numbers on the trailer now. Just slightly less dirty spots in the shape of "3313". It makes me thinks those numbers were on there for a long time.

BTW, how would I go about reaching Dennis and Cecilia John in Dayton, Ohio if I wanted to ask (or bribe) them to release the numbers to me?
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LOL... so it sounds like right around the time I finish restoring my trailer the numbers might be available, perfect!

Also, there aren't any "existing" numbers on the trailer now. Just slightly less dirty spots in the shape of "3313". It makes me thinks those numbers were on there for a long time.

BTW, how would I go about reaching Dennis and Cecilia John in Dayton, Ohio if I wanted to ask (or bribe) them to release the numbers to me?
The way you said the numbers have been removed, probably means that they are still using them on their new Airstream. Either way, if you'd like to contact them I looked them up and they're in the phone book: PM me for details.
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:56 PM   #19
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Also, there aren't any "existing" numbers on the trailer now. Just slightly less dirty spots in the shape of "3313". It makes me thinks those numbers were on there for a long time.
On our first Airstream (a 1966 Overlander if you hadn't already guessed that ) we could very clearly see the outlines of the original numbers which were on the trailer from 1966 until about 1976, under the newer numbers that had been on the trailer since 1976. Even though the trailer spent most of those first 10 years stored indoors and all of the almost thirty years afterward stored outdoors, the original number outlines were still VERY noticable and clear. It was like the clear coat under the original numbers had never aged - quite amazing actually. By the way, we know those details about that trailer because it was the one Lorrie grew up camping in before her parents sold it to neighbors, from whom we eventually got it.

Your case may be a bit different because I do not beleive 1957 Airstreams were routinely clear coated. While clear coat may have been an option in 1957, I doubt many got it. (Clear coat didn't become "standard" on Airstream until the early '60's.) I'd expect that the outlines on "aged aluminum" might not be as clear cut. I wonder how long numbers do need to be on uncoated aluminum to leave a permanent image behind.
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My 1959 book says that 3313 belonged to James and Ruth Dunn in Pasadena, Ca
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Your case may be a bit different because I do not beleive 1957 Airstreams were routinely clear coated. While clear coat may have been an option in 1957, I doubt many got it. (Clear coat didn't become "standard" on Airstream until the early '60's.) I'd expect that the outlines on "aged aluminum" might not be as clear cut. I wonder how long numbers do need to be on uncoated aluminum to leave a permanent image behind.
That's a pretty cool story! It wouldn't surprise me one bit that there would be some other non-standard item on this trailer. I mean, it already has tandem axles, two doors, a rare floorplan and a supplemental 12 volt electrical system!
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My 1959 book says that 3313 belonged to James and Ruth Dunn in Pasadena, Ca
Cool! Now that's great to know, and makes total sense since this trailer was built in the Los Angeles and I bought it from someone on the West Coast too. Plus, it has all the signs of a California vehicle; very light weather-related wear for instance. I wonder if they were the original owners. I'll have to see if I can look them up...
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My 1959 book says that 3313 belonged to James and Ruth Dunn in Pasadena, Ca
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What does your 1959 directory say for WBCCI numbers 1467 & 1487? Thanks.
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1467 - Clifford and Ethel Cady - Rochester NY
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1467 - Clifford and Ethel Cady - Rochester NY
1487 - Floyd and Grace Telmagr - Drayton Plains Mich
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Thanks. One of those names may turn out to be the original owner of a '56 Overlander I just "found". Like many other WBCCI numbers these two numbers have changed hands a few times over the years.

I haven't yet attempted to contact the owner of the Overlander to see if it might be "for sale", because it will need frame work (probably replacement). See my other post for more questions about that.

I must add, however that I just read your ongoing post on the restoration of your '58 Overlander and I am impressed. It looks great. Now the question for me is am I willing to do the same, but take it to the next level and tackle a project with significant frame issues?
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Would you look up one for me, please? 25544
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Would you look up one for me, please? 25544
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Now I gotta return the favor . . .

I don't beleive WBCCI was up to #25544 in '59 (I think they were only up the the 15000's in 1966 when Lorrie's parents joined), so Ken's directory should be of no help here, but my directories show . . .

1981 - Donovan and Lucille Lanning - Carey, OH
1989 & 1991- Unused
1993, 1994 & 1995- Donovan and Lucille Lanning - Carey, OH
2001, 2004, & 2005 - Unused

Thus as far as my directories can tell, this is a "one owner" number, but I must advise that between the late '60's and 1981, it could have had other owners, . . . or maybe not.
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My 59 directory only goes up to 6000.

Joe - you can do it! The only skill required is patience. The only way I've been able to do this (other than patience) is this forum - there isn't anything we can't talk you through.

Having said that, you do need to evaluate the project and decide if it is worth taking on - my frame was in great shape except the po decided to cut the frame to install plumbing (duh - why didn't I think of that ) plus I had a few cross members that were broke - I took the trailer to my friendly welder and he fixed it all - made it nice and easy for me.

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