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Old 12-23-2010, 11:54 AM   #57
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The bottom line is this folks, the WBCCI “missed” a golden opportunity to grow and once again be the club that it once was back in the 1960’s-1970’s and early 1980’s back about 10 years ago with the coming of the internet. Even up to five years ago or so they still had a chance to grow the WBCCI with a new look and feel when even the Airstream company its self saw the writing on the wall by changing the inside look and feel of their trailers to appeal to a younger crowd/families. “IF” the WBCCI had just taken the lead from Airstream at that time to relaxed, used the internet, etc… they would now be twice the size we currently are and would be growing. Like many “old guards” before them, WBCCI IBT/EC7 would not let go, thus killing the WBCCI to the point where it is today. The IBT/EC7 did not understand the power of the keyboard and the WWW (World Wide Web) to promote and define who and what you are about, though many tried to tell them. Look at the Harley Davison Clubs, Ford Mustang, Corvette, etc… they are growing by using the history of the brand and the marketing of the web and the fun and sexiness of the product.

Many companies would kill to have the history that the WBCCI has that could be molded into a marketing plan to reinvent the “brand” instead of trying to grow something from the ground up. Though I’m not trying to bash anyone with this statement, it takes someone that has grown a business most of the time to understand this, not a retired teacher, military or government worker which is most of what you have running the WBCCI/EC7. I know with that statement, I’ll get many flames, which is fine but I think many that have built a company/product from the ground up would agree with it.

Cut the fat, make the hog look sexy and fun to eat and you’ll have lots of people chowing down on bacon.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:39 PM   #58
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And that was the WBCCI's choice of action, so why not let it be. zz
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:01 PM   #59
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And that was the WBCCI's choice of action, so why not let it be. zz

I suspect that if we let it be, In a few years it won't "be"
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:09 PM   #60
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I guess you have to define who represents WBCCI. The leadership (old IBT member,Even older EC& members or the majority of the members who have no voice in what the EC7 decide to do and what is best for them (not necessarily the best for the majority of members or the life expectancy of the club. For those who would like to see the club continue and maybe even regain some ground on "Fun, Fellowship, and Adventure" we will continue to speak out and try to make the leaders aware of the changes that must be made for the club to continue to be financially viable by maintaining enough members to pay the Headquarter's $200,000 of overhead cost.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:16 PM   #61
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You are joking, right?

ZZ,

That was the choice of action of the WBCCI "IBT/EC7" not the general membership. "EVERY" WBCCI member I've ever asked about this subject would say "yes" to the following questions:

Would you like to see the IBT/EC7 relax the dresscode?
Would you like to see the IBT/EC7 have more family type things to do at rallies?
Should the IBT/EC7 work towards getting younger members?
Should the IBT/EC7 cut back on travel?
etc.. etc.. etc...

I think you get the point of the questions. The regular members have little to no voice in how things are run at the top. If you are someone that points this out, you will never get to the top to help change things.

I understand your point, if you don't like it leave, stop bitching, etc... there are just some of us that would like to see this club be around when our kids get older so they will have a club for thier kids.

One also should understand the mind set of the babyboomers are not the same of the generation running the IBT/EC7, they are more relaxed, less rules, have fun, etc...

I know of many that have quit and more that are going to over much of the same problems over the past 10 years. There's only so many left to leave.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:25 PM   #62
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I understand your point, if you don't like it leave, stop bitching, etc...
And those who don't shut up and go along are not "quality". Reminiscent of the "mere member" comment is it not?
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:41 PM   #63
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Again, you misread my statement. Quality members are those who go by the rules and force change if necessary, others appear to want to change the rules to get the same results. I know, going by the rules so far has not created change, neither has breaking or ignoring them. [which in the end will end the club] zz
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:00 PM   #64
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Zig I think you have missed the point.

Many have tried to change the rules over the years from within using the so called polices and regulations. This has proven totally fruitless. Now there appears to be one last chance.

According to the Mid Winter agenda there will be a presentation of proposed bylaw changes. If the Leadership reacts towards these suggestions as they have historically reacted to proposals and amendments I suspect this will set one of 2 courses, French or English history.

The French demanded change and were rejected costing a few their heads. The English demanded change and got a much improved society. Oh yes the King kept most of his perks. So all need not be lost at the top just because the masses get some relief and voice in their future. The King should still be allowed to ride around in his carriage, just not an SOB carriage, and the masses should debate and pass on governance.

Just as the financial community used to predict the potential outcome of Chairman Greespan's reports by the thickness of his case I suspect we will get an indication of acceptance by the quantity of ice tea pitchers available at the meeting.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:21 PM   #65
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Have the agenda and the motions been released?

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Zig I think you have missed the point.

Many have tried to change the rules over the years from within using the so called polices and regulations. This has proven totally fruitless. Now there appears to be one last chance.

According to the Mid Winter agenda there will be a presentation of proposed bylaw changes. If the Leadership reacts towards these suggestions as they have historically reacted to proposals and amendments I suspect this will set one of 2 courses, French or English history.

The French demanded change and were rejected costing a few their heads. The English demanded change and got a much improved society. Oh yes the King kept most of his perks. So all need not be lost at the top just because the masses get some relief and voice in their future. The King should still be allowed to ride around in his carriage, just not an SOB carriage, and the masses should debate and pass on governance.

Just as the financial community used to predict the potential outcome of Chairman Greespan's reports by the thickness of his case I suspect we will get an indication of acceptance by the quantity of ice tea pitchers available at the meeting.
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Howie,

Have the agenda and the motions been released?

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Bill,
The agenda is on the WBCCI.org website under the IBT tab.
There will likely be a few additions. Motion/Item number 6 is not listed yet and it is a request for a new flag for the El Camino Real Unit.
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Motion/Item number 6 is not listed yet and it is a request for a new flag for the El Camino Real Unit.
While they are rearranging the deck chairs, flag, we are trying to get the hole in the side of the ship patched.

But the band will play till the end.

All can take heart. There is only one grievance this year. Who do you think won the rubber duck this time.
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But the band will play till the end.
And the band will be Lawrence Welk's.....
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I see from Don McKelvay's material for the IBT that the West Texas Unit is now down to less than 10 members. That is 3 units in Region 9 that are in the process of failing: Texas Unit, East Texas Unit, and West Texas Unit.

I expect the balance of the West Texas Unit to move over to the Texas Plains Unit.

McKelvay writes that as of end of November, the club is down 7%. I expect some dire drops in the next several years as a whole generation "ages out."
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There will likely be a few additions. Motion/Item number 6 is not listed yet and it is a request for a new flag for the El Camino Real Unit.
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