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Old 02-12-2006, 08:06 PM   #15
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Smile Please don't take a fence...

Well I'm on the fence because sometimes groups can get a little demanding, like this nice women's club I was in (photo attached) was really rigid about rules of order though they had some fun aerobic fund raisers (photos) the forum rallies just sound less structured...
Seriously, the forum get togethers sound like more fun, and we're a family so if kids aren't welcome we'll just save that membership fee for gas and go camping with kindred spirits we meet along the way!
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:30 AM   #16
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Thanks for the replies. They are all great.

Anyone else want to chime in here ?
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:32 AM   #17
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Politics aside....

It is interesting to read this thread......
With any democratic group or association there is a diverse range of views held by the members. That is certainly represented here. I see it as a good sign. Differences should be embraced......
It would be a sorry group of people who met to express my views exclusively; who would I engage in conversation with?
Debate is a sure sign of a healthy democracy....
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:52 AM   #18
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I agree

about diversity , tolerance and debate, democracy. But from my reading of this thread, not a single responder would be considered (mo) from the "on the fence" group that was to be sampled.
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Old 02-13-2006, 12:06 PM   #19
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Well, I encourage those people to speak up as well. But specifically, I encourage Chris to speak up, because he lives in our Unit's area, and we know him from several forum rallys and he's a good guy, and exactly the kind of person I want to go camping with

I know there are lots of people out there who have had cold receptions from their local units, or were told to take their noisy kids elsewhere, but as 3Ms75Argosy can attest, our unit is not like that (not that their girls are noisy - they're delightful actually). Some units are so dried up they're on the verge of dissapearing, but ours is still healthy and active. So I think really a lot of problems are unit specific. And if there's something about our unit that is keeping Chris out (or anybody in the NW who's thinking about joining the WBCCI), I'd like to know about it, and see what we can do to make it right.

People are always complaining that the people who run the club are unreachable. I'm a direct line to the unit, and they're out here saying 'tell us what's stopping you'! I don't even have to tell them who said it, it can be completely anonymous. Just say the words!
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:36 AM   #20
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HI Stef, Thanks for the compliments ! I just wanted to say that it is not the Oregon unit that is making me waiver. Everyone who I have met from the O unit is hella cool . Can I say that at 39 ? lol.

What makes me take pause on joining is that it seems like the club nationally is turning a blind eye to attracting and keeping younger members. The name change thing makes me roll my eyes in disbelief. I don't like the new name on the table. But I also think that WBCCI name is just as obscure. I get asked a lot about the red numbers on my trailer. No matter what the name is, the people in the club will still be the same, unless a new name somehow changes their attitudes ? No matter what the name is, it will still have a set of questions people will ask to go with it.

I feel that change has to come from within and from the bottom up. Meaning if enough people get active in changing things they will eventually turn in that direction. So I will eventually join up and hopefully, in time, make a small difference. I have been a member of different clubs in the past and I know the benefits of the friendships and camaraderie that they have within. I would like to join so be patient with me . I will try the club out when it becomes financially possible for me to participate in the events and to pay the dues.

I spent money like a drunken sailor last summer . I have to watch my budget this year and things like a membership in a club, international rallies have to wait. There is quite possibly going to be a move in my future this year as well. These aren't excuses, just facts of life. So for right now it is the forum rallies or bust ! BTW, this forum group rocks !!

The reason I started this thread was I wanted to see how many other people were wondering about joining and having second thoughts or did join and wondering if they should stay. I still welcome any comments that anyone has on the subject.

I have made up my mind on the course of action that I am taking.

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Old 02-14-2006, 06:32 AM   #21
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Chris, I was a member for five or six years and let my membership lapse last year and haven't re-upped. The reasons are many, and most have nothing to do with the organization. In small town America, do-ers are in short supply and I find myself involved in more organizations than I have time. When I want to go camping, it's to get away from daily life and I'm not looking to socialize with my trailer... I'm looking to escape with my trailer. The WBCCI doesn't fit that very well.

What caused me to give it up so readily though, was that I realized long ago, and especially after attending the 2000 Int'l Rally in Sioux Falls that the "CCI" stands for "Caravan Club International". The majority of the folks in attendance actually used their trailers for travel... in caravans!

At age 45, and working poor, I didn't have the wherewithal to caravan. It was tough to do a weekend somewhere nearby. There were other issues, the general age of our local club was some 30 years older than we were, and after attending a number of rallies, I just decided I didn't have much to add nor did WBCCI have much to offer me. Our goals were different.

I continued to pay my dues until last year, but didn't participate in any events and finally just decided to let my membership lapse. I think that the club is a good one for the purpose for which it was intended. It can't be all things to all people, and there are too many folks with too many disparate views of what it should be. It'll be interesting to watch where it goes into the future. I'll be on the outside of the fence looking in.

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Old 02-14-2006, 12:39 PM   #22
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I can see where you're coming from, Chris (and Rog too). Everyone has different needs for how to spend their free time, and the club doesn't fit everyone. I also understand the money issue, because every year it's a big deal to come up with the $70 to join the WBCCI and the unit for another year. Not being an 'airstream millionaire', we take spending $70 pretty seriously. I also get discouraged by the troubles of the national club, and the name change, and the naysayers, but it really has little to do with what goes on out here in Oregon. In fact, it's worse this year than usual because of the international coming here.

But there's also something nice about having a local club and being able to get together with the same people and catch up about where they've been and what they've been up to. Just like our forum rallys I guess.

Chris, you're welcome to come as a guest to some of our unit rallys until you make up your mind. And I'm sure we'll have lots of forum rallys, or even joint forum and unit rallys. And when you're ready to join, we'll be glad to have some extra help and ideas.

The unit has had trouble getting someone to step up and be VP this year. VP has to plan next year and be president for the year they planned. So Dave and I discussed it and he volunteered. So once it's approved by the board, we'll be planning 2007. I hope we can get more people our age involved so we can come up with some new places to go and interesting activities. Then maybe we won't have so many people 'on the fence'!
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I did it.

I just took the plunge and joined. My wife gave me the $$ for my birthday she knows how much the Airstream means to me and supports me. For the past 3 years Ed Tracy in Eugene has been keeping at me and keeping me informed as to what the Western Oregon Unit is doing. He is delightful and very knowledgeable. I look forward to meeting up with the group again and discovering what the group will help me to do.
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Good for you! I hope we run into you at a rally sometime. Remember, you're welcome at any unit rally, so you can come to Oregon Unit activities as well. You'll also have to get together with JordanDVM, he's in the W. OR unit as well.

You should turn out for the unofficial Newport Rally this weekend. I hear there's still one more spot available...
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Hi,

I am a member-at-large currently because I find myself in FL part of the year, and OR the other part with a good dose of cross-country travel in between. The FL local Pres. called me a while ago to invite me to join their group (I have never met them) but I feel that my soul still reside in 'THE GORGE'. It seems that your OR unit might be worth joining, even though I don't consider myself the joining type. I should be back on the west coast for July and August. Hopefully I can get to one of your events to say hi.
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I hope you can make it out and meet some folks at a rally. We aren't too fancy, but we've always had fun. This year is going to be a little weird because of International happening out here. We will be having a rally August 4-6 in Brooks Oregon. And of course the annual Pendleton Round Up rally. There is always lots to do around here.
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OK, I may be the sorta on the fence type you were originally searching to survey.

I could go either way.

First, I don’t already belong because:
When I first found the club existed via the Internet I didn’t yet own an Airstream and was researching which model to purchase. I thought joining an AS club might help as it has with other old car/motorcycle hobbies. I was immediately repelled when I found you had to OWN an Airstream to join your silly club. How special. Not trying to attract new young prospects are you?? I found other webbased AS sorurces, and magazines, met nice folks and well, then I never just looked back at it until you asked.
Sorry to be brash but you did ask.

I was reminded of Groucho's famous line: "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member."

Hobby Clubs are what you make of them. You invest time, others invest time, you share ideas, have fun, learn from others and make friendships. If you like your new friends..travel and camp with them. Some have more energy to invest than others. Thanks for them. They make clubs work for us all.

My experience based on several hobby/vehicle collecting clubs has been it’s fun .…..then competition and judging comes in, big pocketbooks win, egos flair, someone gets too big for their britches ala Wally style and then: Shiniest trailer takes all?? And I leave. It ruined antique motorcycles and Model A Fords for me.

And much depends on how one uses their trailer. Some seem to just like showing them off. I enjoy rallies, camping, visiting, meeting folks, sharing ideas, swap meets, but as for spending an entire week…well I’d probably be more likely to boondock camp and watch the Grizzly bears fishing and eagles flying.

Sounds like you must have internal club squabbling…who’s on first? politics? I have not paid attention and don’t care to hear about it. There’s a reason to think twice about joining..they aren’t a happy bunch even without me.

Not sure the price of dues are a good value for my family. I could probably use 2 year subscription to Airstream Life more or another tank of gas to travel.

Sounds like some want to change club name…whatever. What would you change it to? Fred's trailer club? Isn’t it Wally’s club anymore even without him? Another reason to pause.

Now I’m left wondering why I would want to join. I’m very sure you are all great folks and the ones who have helped me through the forums are very helpful, generous and truly friendly. What does that $70 go towards?

I’m not so on the fence about joining a local chapter, that sounds great and sign me up, but there seems to be a silly club rule that I have to join the big national club first (and own one of these special trailers).

Why would I want to join? really? What am I missing?

I really mean no offense…remember you asked.

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I just took the plunge and joined. My wife gave me the $$ for my birthday she knows how much the Airstream means to me and supports me. For the past 3 years Ed Tracy in Eugene has been keeping at me and keeping me informed as to what the Western Oregon Unit is doing. He is delightful and very knowledgeable. I look forward to meeting up with the group again and discovering what the group will help me to do.
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Welcome to the WOU of WBCCI! That's the unit we belong to. I attended the luncheon last Saturday to see more of what's going on. We definitely need more youthful folk in our group! You probably know our forums group is having a mini rally at South Beach SP this weekend during the Wine and Seafood Festival. It would be great if you could come over for a visit. We'd like to meet you!
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