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Eddy · 07-01-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by markdoane

I think the "Volunteerism" thing that Shafer was talking about yesterday rings true with your comments. If the MOHOs loaned to the officers are a reward for the time and effort they put into the club, then I think it is a nice perk.

Defeat of the MOHO ammendment will make it harder to recruit top rank officers, if their reward is use of a $90K Classic Trailer instead of a $400K motorhome.

Maybe I am stupid, but why should they get this kind of a perk at all? Isn't this a camping club and don't we all buy our own Airstream? Don't they get their camping fees and mileage paid for while traveling and seeing this beautiful country?

ZoominC6 · 07-01-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddy

Maybe I am stupid, but why should they get this kind of a perk at all? Isn't this a camping club and don't we all buy our own Airstream? Don't they get their camping fees and mileage paid for while traveling and seeing this beautiful country?

Not stupid at all. What a crock. Vote em all out and change the rules!

ArtStream · 07-01-2007, 04:23 PM

There are a number of well run camping organizations, Escapees comes to mind,
which, by the way was started by a former WBCCI member.

Officers have no extra privileges, in fact you would not even no you were conversing with an officer unless you asked or were told.

Models ARE out there, the wheel does not need to be reinvented.

thenewkid64 · 07-01-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by markdoane

I've seen that reported from more than one source, but i have no firsthand knowlege. I think the officers get use of either a Classic Trailer or a Motorhome while in office, and get to purchase it at the end of the term.

This is not true.

As a club officer (IBT) IF they wish to buy a NEW unit to travel in Airstream used to extend a 5% discount off list to the member. That is the only "deal" that they get. If you can't get a dealer to come off list by 5% then have I got something to sell ya! I don't know if this program is still in place. They DO NOT get to use one for a year and purchase it at the end of the year.

LI Pets · 07-02-2007, 05:48 AM

What a joke, they reported 1.9M in the bank.

They can lower dues

LI Pets · 07-02-2007, 05:50 AM

The votes were reported

YES-NO-ABSTAIN

I would assume if you didn't vote locally with your unit it was counted as abstained.

**azflycaster** · 07-02-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LI Pets

The votes were reported

YES-NO-ABSTAIN

I would assume if you didn't vote locally with your unit it was counted as abstained.

If you do not vote with your unit, the percentage of those who voted is used against the total number of votes for your unit. Abstains are people who chose to abstain or maybe the delegate was confused.

Eddy · 07-02-2007, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LI Pets

The votes were reported

YES-NO-ABSTAIN

I would assume if you didn't vote locally with your unit it was counted as abstained.

I understand this to me that the total votes were actually votes yes or no and the abstentions are not considered votes thus the difference in the tally. Makes sense!

SilverCabin · 07-02-2007, 07:15 PM

Abstentions only come into play when you are trying to determine who won based on the majority requirements, i.e., simple majority, 2/3 majority, majority of the votes cast, etc. Here it seemed like a simple majority was all that was needed. To abstain in this kind of voting, means you will accept the will of the majority, so in effect you have voted with the majority. This makes the defeat of the MOHO amendment even more dramatic.

Randy

Airboss · 07-02-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by azflycaster

Please give consideration to the 4CU when it is time to renew. You will be a voting member of the club and we will have a couple of rallies that would be close enough for you to attend. Our membership fees are $14 less then being a MAL.

Pay less, get more, have fun!

Yeah and I just joined it for 5 years!!!

Airboss · 07-02-2007, 08:45 PM

Way to go gang!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE!!!! AIRSTREAM IS #1

ScottW · 07-02-2007, 09:58 PM

Airboss is Correct! Ain't but one...Airstream!!!
If you want something else...join another club!

SilverToy · 07-02-2007, 10:39 PM

AirStreams! and only AirStreams!!!

Gotta a REAL nice ring to it....

Count me as extremely happy that things went the way they did!

Thanks to ALL that cast those "NO" votes and made this 'little revolution' possible.... neigh, inevitable...!!!!! Wally can rest easier tonight!

Axel
SilverToy

Airboss · 07-02-2007, 11:13 PM

Own The Best And Forget The Rest!!!!

dufferin · 07-03-2007, 06:28 AM

Can't believe I didn't see the post before....
GOOD NEWS...

Mac1 · 07-03-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

What redeems my faith in the process is that when I looked at hour our unit president voted he did what he promised. We had 33% against this motion and that is how he voted.

Now it will be interesting to see in what form this resurfaces!!!

I had heard some discussion at our happy hour this evening that the MOHO issue is going to reappear, don't know how or when but the big wheels are not going to let it die when they think it is the best thing to do.

Way too much time and energy is being spent when the club has other major pressing issues (declining membership). I hope they figure it out and LISTEN to the membership. PLEASE!

Mac and Linda

**moosetags** · 07-03-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac1

I had heard some discussion at our happy hour this evening that the MOHO issue is going to reappear, don't know how or when but the big wheels are not going to let it die when they think it is the best thing to do.

Somehow or other, hat doesn't suprise me.

ScottW · 07-03-2007, 09:24 PM

Let 'em try. We'll vote it down, and vote them OUT. All they want is a free ride!

LI Pets · 07-04-2007, 05:57 AM

If that motion is made again IMPEACH 'EM

As I said before the WBCCI was used as a pawn by AirStream with the past officers, let's hope the new leaders don't get corrupted.

dudebb · 07-04-2007, 06:14 AM

I've been waiting to hear how the vote went before joining. Obviously, I am happy with the result and will sign up! If it comes up again for a vote, I'll be a part of the NO votin block. Now the only thing to decide is what unit to join. Leaning towards the Washington DC unit. Is the VAC a unit? I guess I'll start a new thread to ask for any thoughts on units.
George