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Old 07-07-2007, 06:34 PM   #29
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:38 PM   #30
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most units rely on luncheons primarily with 2 or 3 camping events near casket factories or state fairs,

with prostate screening or pull tab collecting as the high point.



lol, you rule.
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:50 PM   #31
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You should know that they were trying to work out last weekend pro-rated fees this year -- not sure how discount that became (if at all) and while I couldn't differentiate a Tuesday from a Saturday while I was in Perry I do believe the VAC open house went off on a Saturday this year.

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The events seem to fall on the same day of the rally each year. That means that the VAC open house will be on Monday next year at Bozeman (everything skips a day as next year is leap year).

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Old 07-07-2007, 06:54 PM   #32
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A got club info when I bought my trailer from Colonial. I also got a telephone call from a local unit.
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:56 PM   #33
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65GT & VAN
Funny but true in both cases.
They thru me out and WBCCI has or rents a prostate testing unit that they had at both Home Comming and Salem.
No prostate cancer is not funny, just ask me.

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What am I doing for the WBCCI?
Not one D____ Thing.
They thru me out after two years for not having an Airstream. Well I loved my Non Airstream and it is much better than my Real Airstream.
I go too run's with WBCCI club's that camp and have fun & forum rallies like Beverly Beach. Not WBCCI rallies were Kid's and young people are looked down on if allowed at all. Yes I'm 61 and will only see 65, but I like young people and there kids, after all they are the future.
Why should I fix there broken club. I don't need it, it need's MEMBERS!!!!
Airstream DOES NOT support WBCCI because it is draging Airstream down.
If you have time too beat your head against the wall, be my quest, but I'm going camping for the few years I have left.

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To quote a Newfie phrase.... "Proper d%m ting b'y"!

Gunny you are right, you should be able to enjoy the time you have left. Life is too short, and from what I can glean from your post, you know this only too well.

You are welcome to come and camp with us as our "buddy" anytime. We are young (40's and 50's) retired military and have kids. Anyplace we are should be lively.

I am sorry that you had a bad experience with WBCCI.

Thank you for your service to our country. Semper Fi
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:15 PM   #35
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keeping it lite folks...

gunny they wouldn't let me in 25 years ago with a classic moho...

just think i could have been a FAMOUS past first lady by now!

with 5 flag polls!

no prostate cancer isn't funny...

but i don't want wally or a caravan committee leading the search for this issue either.

lipets...

it's inevitable that posts from all angles will appear here on any topic...

and especially the wb.

IF YOU WANT LIMITED REPLIES take it too the wbcci website...

seldom is there much dissagreement on issues posted there ...

MOST on this forum site have little interest in the wb...

MANY on this forum are members or former members of the wb...

SOME are enthusiastic supporters of one or the other or both....

SEVERAL of us care about the wb in our own special ways...

FEW need what the wb currently offers...

YOU post here so lots of US will read it...

so accept the dialog

ya can't herd d' cats man....

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Old 07-07-2007, 07:34 PM   #36
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65GT & VAN
Funny but true in both cases.
They thru me out and WBCCI has or rents a prostate testing unit that they had at both Home Comming and Salem.
No prostate cancer is not funny, just ask me.

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Don, i certainly wasn't making fun of yours or anyone elses affliction. Merely a laugh at 2airs post.


As for the club, Steph about summed up my position as well. If the club was a more modern thing that had a direction that many here have spoken about i would certainly join.

Frankly, i am not interested in joining some crotchity, stodgy club and working from within to change it. The way the club is currently set up it would be a long uphill fight, challenging the old guard to change their preferred ways. If that means that this lack of participation from others like myself leads to the eventual demise of the club, so be it. It would be a sad thing but it would also be brought upon itself by a leadership that is so entrenched and concerned with maintaining the status quo that generally only appeals to an older generation. Perhaps then a more modern club could emerge from the aftermath.

I wish those of you luck who are going to attempt this overhaul of the club. Hopefully you can drag the WBCCI kicking and screaming into the twenty first century. I dont have the time or patience to do so.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:40 PM   #37
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I will look you up next year. I'm on the left coast right now.
There are a few good units that I like camping with as I full time around the country, but WBCCI head shed needs too go.

Semper Fi

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I am looking forward too seeing you at Beverly Beach. Its been a year since our last visit at Silver Falls.
I knew they didn't like Argosy's but didn't about classic motorhomes. Cool, they really don't like my NEON (maybe thats why I love it so much) and my 5 flag mount with the wrong flags (you know US, Texas, Marine Corp, POW and the new Jolly Roger).

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Don, having been born and raised in Corpus Christi, TX. and proud of our military, I can't complain of your choice of flags.
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Cool Left Coast

We will hopefully be staying at Camp Pendleton in September, that's Left coast . Then NAS Pensacola the whole month of November. Hunting in October up North.

It's beautiful here in Western NC, we hope to have a Waterfall rally next year, but have a few really sweet campgrounds right around the corner, for small intimate "Airstream" gatherings too. Forums rally anyone?

Hang in there Gunny!
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Bob----A thought or two for you and your wife's consideration as you work on member retention.

The reality is that those former members who have left the unit are gone forever. Not much can be done to entice them back. Spend you energy on the incoming new members and the returning long time members.

The great news is having 1000 new members each year with which we have a chance to make a strong, positive first impression. Focus on that. Focus on meeting & greeting these new members as soon as they join up. Spend some quality time with them, be their buddy at the first couple of unit events, and the unit will experience improved retention with the new members.

To improve retention among the rest of the membership, conduct an employee (member) survey. What are we doing right? If we were to change a couple of things to improve your membership experience, what would it be? Look for any consensus on what needs changing, develop a plan to address the top two items, give the membership feedback on what the unit said, and what the leadership is doing to address the top two concerns, and then implement the changes. Do this real fast. (Nothing dampens membership morale more than a long period of silence after the survey. Better not to ask, than raise their expectations followed by no feedback.) Then, follow up in a year or so with another survey on how are we doing with the implemention of their suggestions.
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I made a suggestion along these same lines to Don Shafer "I visited the local Airstream dealer recently and the only items I found concerning the WBCCI were a few stickers and pictures of prior International and other rallies. I think that WBCCI, and Airstream, are missing a great sales tool, that is "buy an Airstream and look at all of the places you can go and people you can meet on Caravans, Unit Rallies and Special Event Rallies", in addition look at all of the Airstreams which are over 25 years old (this shows the longevity of the product, for which Airstream asks so much for)."

His reply was as follows: "Airstream dealers are independent business people, not a sub organization of the Company. Some dealers are very interested in WBCCI, others, particularly new ones, don't understand. This is something Airstream lives with and attempts to solve, so do we. We do explore the dealer/unit relationship, and some are very successful."

It has been my experience that a salesman is willing to accept help from anyone if it helps make the sale. Perhaps WBCCI has no value in this sales process. This should stop.

Bill
Hubby and I were speaking about this just the other day and he said something very similar. A salesman just isn't going to care about talking about the club when he is trying to close a deal. The only way to get a salesman wanting to push this is for an incentive or if the salesman already knows the value the WBCCI could be to a new Airstream owner.

Now maybe a local unit could convince the dealership of the benefits and they could provide a one-year membership with each new purchase or at the least local unit contact information to the new buyer, but I think this type of effort would really need to be made at the unit level by creating a rapport with the dealership.

I honestly have to say I am not sure I would be too happy if I discovered a dealership was just giving out my name and contact information without me knowing about it.

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The reality is that those former members who have left the unit are gone forever. Not much can be done to entice them back. Spend you energy on the incoming new members and the returning long time members.
I am not so sure about this being true. Certainly there are people who won't come back, but I have heard of a few members in the NEU unit who came back and have really spearheaded where the group is presently going.

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The great news is having 1000 new members each year with which we have a chance to make a strong, positive first impression. Focus on that. Focus on meeting & greeting these new members as soon as they join up. Spend some quality time with them, be their buddy at the first couple of unit events, and the unit will experience improved retention with the new members.
YES! This is great news and it deserves a great deal of attention. I agree with you that member retention needs to be focused on.


As members of the NEU we have been blessed with a group that does greet us when we arrive: they welcome help and participation: they are friendly and focus on the joys of camping, camaraderie, the love of Airstreams, and so much more. We want to support the values of this unit and their plans for the future and if it is necessary to pay for membership in the WBCCI then we will. However, with that membership we do have the right to encourage and support changes. Do we have to? Certainly not. Will we. Most definitely.
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