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Old 02-20-2010, 07:34 PM   #99
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Just a very stupid question.... Why the heck would ANYONE want to be a part of a club that treats you so disrespectfully? Just asking because to me, I would want nothing to do with them. But hey, I am not Leo and I am known as a loose cannon so maybe I am totally off base here.
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Just a very stupid question.... Why the heck would ANYONE want to be a part of a club that treats you so disrespectfully? Just asking because to me, I would want nothing to do with them. But hey, I am not Leo and I am known as a loose cannon so maybe I am totally off base here.
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Listen to episode 110 of TheVAP, Leo explains his reasons.

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Old 02-20-2010, 07:45 PM   #101
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I still do not get it... How many times does someone have to say they do not want to play with you before you realize they are serious? 1st grievance, 2nd? Oh, no, I am dense a third... How about a glass of Ice tea? What does it actually take?

Bill, I always have taken you as a very intelligent guy... How many ways does one need to be told to get lost?

I hope Leo realizes this and moves on. He will be much better off doing so.

PS I down loaded #110 by 4 am on friday and have listened 3 times now.
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I still do not get it... How many times does someone have to say they do not want to play with you before you realize they are serious? 1st grievance, 2nd? Oh, no, I am dense a third... How about a glass of Ice tea? What does it actually take?
At what point does a small minority of the club get to decide who gets to play while ignoring the rules. Your post reads like its the IBTs club and the rest are allowed only through their sufferance. THAT is what it is about, at least in my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:43 PM   #103
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I think if you were to survey the WBCCI you would find that the general population is far removed from the couple dozen people stirred up here. 5% filled out the survey, the support you feel is just not there. Sooner or later many will realize that.

I hate to admit it, but 2air is right... "just move on"
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Just a very stupid question.... Why the heck would ANYONE want to be a part of a club that treats you so disrespectfully?
I will say it again...
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:10 PM   #105
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I believe principle and regard for others has a lot to do with the decision to not go quietly away. Some people have gifts that others do not and they are able to act on behalf of others and not only secure their own way even to the extent of personal expense and discomfort.

Leo isn't trying to buddy up with the members of IBT. He is refusing to back off for the benefit of all of the WBCCI membership. That is what makes him such a threat.
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Since our letters are OPEN LETTERS to the IBT how about posting them on
http://forum.wbcci.org/

That is assuming you are not already banded from that site.

It would be very interesting to see how long they remain uncensored.
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HowieE,

I plan this weekend to print off all the letters either sent to me or posted here and send them to WBCCI HQ with the request the letters be sent onto the members of the IBT/EC7.

I have no trouble trying to post them over on the WBCCI site. My guess, Cortez will shut it down quickly. Right now, I have a run rate of 30% of my posts at the WBBCI site is removed. Of that 30% removed, I was able to change to wording then post the revised version.

Let’s hope that between the lawsuit, letters, black bands, etc… the eyes will come open up.
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Hi Paul

Go ahead and post them. It will be great to see how long they stay up so we can report that to the general membership.

I have all e mail addresses so if you want to e mail the IBT directly I will send them to you.
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Those of you that indicate that there are "just a few people objecting about club management, please be reminded that many of that "few" are speaking for many!! Some of them are unit presidents or past presidents. Some are region officers or past region officers. And some are well respected members who have a following. Some speak in favor of the club, some do not, but
it is far better to read, comprehend and understand what is being said on this and other threads.

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BTW - Just a "few" (100) represent "many" (2.5 Million people in Washington.

So don't count a "few good men (and women)" out cause that is just what the Marines want! and what the Club needs!!
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