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Old 07-06-2010, 03:49 PM   #57
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:57 PM   #58
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How many of the IBT drive motorhomes? I believe that it is most of them. That is what is driving this issue.

If SOB anything is allowed in; then I am definitely out - if I stay in that long.

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I can give you a count on a few. Norm Beu, IP has a trailer, I think Barry Heckenswiler, 1IVP has a trailer, Don Clark, 2IVP has a trailer, John Boutwell, 3IVP has a motorhome, Judy Bechthold, R12P has a trailer. Three maybe four out of five have trailers. That is all I personally know.

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So now the underlying reason (Motor homes) they wanted Leo out!

He was the primary voice that killed the motion last time,
so is that the real reason they wanted to pave the way with frivolous grievances to get him out of the way?
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Bill are there more PIPs that have motorhomes than newcomers? I know at Perry Mid-winter IBT I literally went door to door and counted the units but can't say offhand what that number was now but the most prominent parking spots were filled with motorhomes that apparently have all timed out and need replacing.
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Bill are there more PIPs that have motorhomes than newcomers? I know at Perry Mid-winter IBT I literally went door to door and counted the units but can't say offhand what that number was now but the most prominent parking spots were filled with motorhomes that apparently have all timed out and need replacing.
Carol,

I agree with your statement, but that was not the question.

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Thanks Bill, your information is appreciated. I am truly curious at this point to know just who wants a new motorhome so badly that it has to be new rather than an Airstream and who has that much clout to change more than a half a century of tradition in an Airstream only club to accommodate themselves. And once again the issue isn't being with friends but changing the constitution to contine to preside over an Airstream club without meeting the club's requirements and premise and excluding other members from office and membership at their own discretion.
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Carol, Jerry Larson has one of last classic diesel pushers. There were three of them in Gillette, that we counted. Doug Wylie has a 34 Limited Tri-axle.

Lewster, we are members of the BAC as well. We own one of the 33 busses Beaver converted.
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Thank you. It's a shame this issue has to even be addressed again within the club because it can lead to misunderstandings. The first time around was brutal in terms of hurt feelings and no one is going to want to repeat that again. But there was a legitimate vote and the answer was no. I would even like to see Region 4 President's stats on the units' vote since local members are reporting no vote having taken place that they were aware of. The issue is not one of Airstream motorhomes but of any brand or specifically any Thor brand of motorhomes being allowed into the WBCCI for an increase in membership and revenue. From that standpoint there seems little justification in limiting that to current owners or members or to Thor products or even to motorhome RV vehicles for that matter. Some may hedge and say this is only an action to be put before the membership again, but I see it as yet another opportunity for IBT leadership to have stood up and made a stand on behalf of the majority of membership that is not in acceptance of this measure. Members "pay" these people to travel to spend their time working for the club's benefit. I would like to see that happen and not see meeting time spent on improving their personal situation within the club. I would love to speak to every member in favor of bringing this back again and see that it is true.
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I find it difficult to believe that all the region 4 units voted on this and yet it didn't surface until during the international.

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I can say the Metro Detroit unit didn't vote on this when we had our last official meeting a couple of months ago.
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Larry Huttles's speech last week in Gillette said Airstream would explore an idea of some sort of Airstream badged Class A that would not be sold or serviced by Airstream Dealers. But this action had to involve more than an handful of owners. The push maybe coming from Airsteam. A few years ago, a PIP was overheard telling another individual that he had promised Airstream the club name change. Just look at the WBCCI stationary, the headliner is "Airstream Owners Association" even after we passed resoundingly, "no name change."
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Larry Huttles's speech last week in Gillette said Airstream would explore an idea of some sort of Airstream badged Class A that would not be sold or serviced by Airstream Dealers. But this action had to involve more than an handful of owners. The push maybe coming from Airsteam. A few years ago, a PIP was overheard telling another individual that he had promised Airstream the club name change. Just look at the WBCCI stationary, the headliner is "Airstream Owners Association" even after we passed resoundingly, "no name change."
Can you post a copy of this letterhead?
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I am wondering what unit didn't want the motorhome issue to be addressed again in region 4, Nova, too new probably, Metro Detroit? 13 units out of 14 voted for this.
I am a member of three Region 4 Units, and have not heard this motion discussed in any of those three units, nor in the Region 4 Presidents monthly newsletter. There is no way that 13 of 14 Units passed that motion. At most 13 of 14 Unit Presidents expressed support on their own without asking their full unit membership about the idea.

I can say this, if this motion passes, they'll lose far more Airstream trailer owners than the number of Airstream motorhome owners they'd retain (or attract if this is more than "grandfathering"). Lorrie and I will likely be one of the ones lost. We joined an Airstream club. Period.

Do we feel bad for Airstream Motorhome owners - yes? The only viable solution would be for Airstream to go back into the Class A motorhome business. Anything else damages the integrity of the club. Pass this motion and the clubs slide into oblivion may be irreversible.
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The region 4 web site states that there are 15 units in that region. What happened to the other unit?

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