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Old 07-13-2010, 02:31 PM   #197
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We just listened to the simulcast.
If the IBT is gleaning motorhome ownership information from Airstream Corp. I just emailed the sales dept who still has us as owners of a 1999 35ft Cutter Diesel, Coach #710622. I ask Deb Wuebbenhorst to scratch our name as being a Class A Diesel Motorhome owner, so we will not be part of the statistic. I ahve always wonder where the lite green and white coach ended up. We traded it in fall of 2000, and next owner had it for 5 months and traded in down in Florida. Every International since Springfield 2005 we have looked for it. So far, it hasn't been to an International that we have been.
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I click on the broadcast, the screen comes up and then---NOTHING!!! ARRGGHHHH!!!!

I have the thing I downloaded a couple of weeks ago, but nothing is happening.

I would just like to know exactly what Turner said. Somebody, please post it.

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Old 07-13-2010, 02:39 PM   #199
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Guess what my memory was accurate to the word, Maggie Scroll back both Turner's motion and the comments are in this thread.
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I did get in and listened. What has been posted with respect to John Turner's comment is accurate. The interesting stuff comes after his comments from others. You should listen.

A question was asked if the report could contain a MOTION? Talk about circumventing the system.
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Thank you, Carol and HowieE. I'll get my tech support to help me get this to play, and listen to it all when I'm not ready to tear out my hair.

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Old 07-13-2010, 07:17 PM   #202
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Percentage of MoHo's in the WBCCI

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I'd also really like to know exactly how many MH owners there are in the club, and how many really want an SOB.....I'm guessing the number is very very small......
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The most recent numbers I have seen were in Jerry Larson's 2008 "State of the WBCCI" Powerpoint presentation. (If I remember correctly it's posted somewhere on the internet, but I don't know where.)

In any case, of the 3,521 members reporting type of RV on their renewal (out of 6,677 members), the totals and percentages were:
Trailers - 3,072 - 87.2%
Class A - 386 - 11.0%
Class B - 57 - 1.6%
Class C - 1 - 0.0%
5th Wheel - 5 - 0.1%
Note that these numbers can't be extrapolated to the total membership because a significant number of members (a majority in some units)--those no longer owning any RV--are omitted.

How many present MoHo owners want to remain in WBCCI with an SOB is anybody's guess.
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Maggie,

Go to the link that bill posted and right click (control clock for the MAC) on the link. Click "Save Target As" and save it to your drive.
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Trailers - 3,072 - 87.2%
Class A - 386 - 11.0%
Class B - 57 - 1.6%
Class C - 1 - 0.0%
5th Wheel - 5 - 0.1%
Out of the 386 Class A listed, does anyone know how many are Classic Aluminum tubes?

We'd have something here if Airstream had really followed thru on that new BMW design for a Class A motoehome that they ditched a few years ago after much hoopla. It also would be nice, if they re-enacted the Classic on the new Workhorse chassis, and put in a duramax.
Can you imagine a Duramax/Allsion ensemble in a Classic Class A, aluminum skin all polished up, diesel power genset for day use and a battery bank of AGM's fed by rooftop solar panels by nite. better yet, a fuel cell generator for silent running all night. Ohh , we can dream!!
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Maggie,

Go to the link that bill posted and right click (control clock for the MAC) on the link. Click "Save Target As" and save it to your drive.
You are a wizard! Thank you so much! My tech support is a working dad ( my son) of three, access not always instant.

Listening now, playing through QuickTime.

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This came up and was introduced as "Motion 7", so was on their agenda that day, apparently. No one seemed surprised nor asked why the midnight hour activity.

John Turner clearly states this came from Region 4 Units, was passed by 13 of 14 Units, which couldn't be more misleading, IMO, from the other information we have learned and as posted above.

I'm just plain disgusted at the whole thing. Shame on them.

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Dan,

The most recent numbers I have seen were in Jerry Larson's 2008 "State of the WBCCI" Powerpoint presentation. (If I remember correctly it's posted somewhere on the internet, but I don't know where.)

In any case, of the 3,521 members reporting type of RV on their renewal (out of 6,677 members), the totals and percentages were:
Trailers - 3,072 - 87.2%
Class A - 386 - 11.0%
Class B - 57 - 1.6%
Class C - 1 - 0.0%
5th Wheel - 5 - 0.1%
Note that these numbers can't be extrapolated to the total membership because a significant number of members (a majority in some units)--those no longer owning any RV--are omitted.

How many present MoHo owners want to remain in WBCCI with an SOB is anybody's guess.
What I find interesting in the above numbers is the % of CLASS "A" MOHOs that would represent past and present IBT and IP etc. as opposed to "just us members".

It seems to me that the greater majority of "just us members" own TRAILERS, while, the greater majority of WBCCI current leaders both past and present, own MOHOs!!!

Perhaps this lopsided statistic is partly responsible in the "disconnect" between the isolation of our leadership and the majority of members.
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How many present MoHo owners want to remain in WBCCI with an SOB is anybody's guess.
18 is the first number that comes to mind. Hands up please. That is 18 Yes, 0 No, and 0 Abstentions.
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It seems to me that the greater majority of "just us members" own TRAILERS, while, the greater majority of WBCCI current leaders both past and present, own MOHOs!!!
I don't do this often but..........
I ran into the advanced caravan in Wall SD last week going from Gillette to the IL rally site. This group consisted of the Executive Board members and some committee chairpersons, the majority pulled trailers.
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I have been listening to the recordings of the July meetings. At the IBT meeting on July 28, each region president was to make a report of their meetings with the units in their region. John Turner, president of region 4, mentioned, almost in passing, that the motorhome matter was discussed at the region rally. This statement was made in connection with the results of the "roundtable" discussions, which also occurred at the region 4 rally.

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