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07-21-2012, 08:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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You will have to ask one of the "Old Fart". I was not involved back then.
My father-in-law was given a post hole digger for Christmas one year for just that task.
Oh for the good Old Days.
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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07-21-2012, 09:06 PM
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#202
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirHeadsRus
HowieE,
Just how deep does a gopher hole need to be?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
You will have to ask one of the "Old Fart". I was not involved back then.
My father-in-law was given a post hole digger for Christmas one year for just that task.
Oh for the good Old Days.
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Yeah, in the good old days it probably wasn't as deep.
Here's a link to a picture prior to the 1970s from Sierra Nevada's WBCCI site of a gopher hole.
Sewage concerns for RV Living
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07-22-2012, 04:44 AM
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#203
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirHeadsRus
HowieE,
Just how deep does a gopher hole need to be?
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It depends on the size of the Gopher.
You can spot the real gopher hole because it doesn't have a cover
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Rick Davis 1602 K8DOC
61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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07-22-2012, 05:52 AM
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#204
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Rivet Idiot
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
On The Lake
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel interested
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Carol, that is way more information than I needed! I do appreciate the thought though. I'll just leave it to the "Old farts" and engineers to discuss. I withdraw my how deep question!
Joe
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07-22-2012, 11:21 AM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Caution!
Having attended a Region 7 rally at the Huron fairgrounds, I can attest that the campground there has plenty of pre-dug gopher holes scattered about. Watch your step when walking.
That might be a solution to sewage disposal, but I don't think the gophers would appreciate it. (Groundhogs, actually.)
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07-22-2012, 12:17 PM
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#206
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Rivet Idiot
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
On The Lake
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,000
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In Florida and Ga where I grew up, a gopher was what is on the top and makes a really big hole. The creature on the bottom looks like a cross between a rat and a squirrel. The hole it makes looks like it is a lot bigger than would be required for it to live in, but could be capable of holding a good bit of International waste. With 4000 trailers and Jack Daniel's flowing, how many folks fell in at any given rally?
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07-22-2012, 12:29 PM
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#207
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuvite-F
Having attended a Region 7 rally at the Huron fairgrounds, I can attest that the campground there has plenty of pre-dug gopher holes scattered about. Watch your step when walking.
That might be a solution to sewage disposal, but I don't think the gophers would appreciate it. (Groundhogs, actually.)
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"Pre-Dug"
That is an idea I had when I was younger. I was going to buy some land and dig post holes. Then when a farmer needed some he could just stop by and buy what he needed dig them up and on his way. Luckily for my fortune all the local cows where replaced by apartments before I bought the land.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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07-22-2012, 01:05 PM
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#208
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
"Pre-Dug"
That is an idea I had when I was younger. I was going to buy some land and dig post holes. Then when a farmer needed some he could just stop by and buy what he needed dig them up and on his way.
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A friend of mine from Texas used to wildcat oil wells. He said if they hit a dry hole they would recoup some of their cost by pulling it up, cutting it up into short lengths, and selling the pieces for post holes.
I think he drank a lot of Jack Daniels, too. . .
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07-26-2012, 05:08 PM
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#209
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Some what closer to the original topic "The International". I just heard a comment relating to the new 3rd VP. The gentleman is 78 years and when asked why he wanted to run he said you don't have to do anything and he wanted his wife to be "First Lady"
Given that we shouldn't have a lot in the way of progress to look forward to.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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07-26-2012, 06:13 PM
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#210
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Rivet Master
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Peculiar
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 531
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HowieE, all I can say is 'really"?
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07-26-2012, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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His wife may indeed be "First Lady" but I believe that there is a lot of work being an International VP and President.
Bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
Some what closer to the original topic "The International". I just heard a comment relating to the new 3rd VP. The gentleman is 78 years and when asked why he wanted to run he said you don't have to do anything and he wanted his wife to be "First Lady"
Given that we shouldn't have a lot in the way of progress to look forward to.
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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07-26-2012, 07:32 PM
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AIR #8691
2006 25' Safari SS SE
Northern
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 381
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Do you think some younger people want to be a club president to have the fact added to their resume?
Do you think some older people want to be a club president to have the fact added to their obituary?
BTW: Every lady should be someone’s “First Lady,” or at least “Queen-for-a-Day.”
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07-28-2012, 06:01 AM
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#213
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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More than we think
Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
I believe that there is a lot of work being an International VP and President.
Bill
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That job is thankless, they have a ton of work to do and for the most part they are happy when its over. Ask an old one or two.
BUT...... they need to take it off of auto pilot and get really inventive.
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Ed
54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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07-28-2012, 08:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Emerick
That job is thankless, they have a ton of work to do and for the most part they are happy when its over. Ask an old one or two.
BUT...... they need to take it off of auto pilot and get really inventive.
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From what I've observed, most do it for the prestige in the "click", and you are definately right about the above. They need to develop more of an attitude of "how can we improve the club", rather than "this is the way it's always been done".
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07-28-2012, 09:11 AM
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#215
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
From what I've observed, most do it for the prestige in the "click", and you are definately right about the above. They need to develop more of an attitude of "how can we improve the club", rather than "this is the way it's always been done".
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When our unit had a meeting to discuss the revised constitution, the main reason for keeping the old was "It's worked for fifty years." I kid you not. Sal.
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Let us live so that when we die even the undertaker will be sorry. Mark Twain
AIR 42483
TAC N.J. 17
WBCCI 24740
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07-28-2012, 09:21 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
Some what closer to the original topic "The International". I just heard a comment relating to the new 3rd VP. The gentleman is 78 years and when asked why he wanted to run he said you don't have to do anything and he wanted his wife to be "First Lady"
Given that we shouldn't have a lot in the way of progress to look forward to.
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I have a lot of trouble believing that quote. I know Jim quite well, having been his webmaster. He isn't young, but he is known for being a hard worker. I might believe that it was a tongue-in-cheek remark.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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07-28-2012, 11:28 AM
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#217
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Come on, EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS THE TRUTH. I. Agree with you. Jim
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07-28-2012, 12:35 PM
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#218
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Rivet Master
2007 23' International CCD
Lapeer
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,082
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We haven't heard a lot about the past International Rally on the forums. Can any attendees give a thorough description of the events and facilities? AT 500 dollars a pop without travel expenses I would like to know what was so enjoyable about it and whether it is a hit or a miss going forward.
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07-28-2012, 02:40 PM
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#219
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska
I have a lot of trouble believing that quote. I know Jim quite well, having been his webmaster. He isn't young, but he is known for being a hard worker. I might believe that it was a tongue-in-cheek remark.
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Even though I don't know him, and voted for the other candidate , I would be inclined to take the remark as tongue in cheek until I see something that would indicate otherwise
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61 tradewind, plus a few others
13 Ram 2500 TD
99 Dodge TD 577K miles
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08-13-2012, 02:52 PM
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#220
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3 Rivet Member
1985 25' Sovereign
St Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 111
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Having just spent 5 days at the Region 7 rally with them I have to agree that the remark was tongue-in-cheek. He has a very good sense of humor. We had couple discussions and he struck me as being a pretty straight shooter. Our installation of officers was a very laid back affair. I think he understands that somethings need to change but we can't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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WBCCI #7528
MN Unit
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