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Old 07-01-2012, 11:24 AM   #99
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It's basically another IBT rally as the midwinter is. It's a "business" meeting for the officers and the invited volunteers to travel to, reconnect with friends and enjoy.

It's too bad the DenCo (aka Forest's) motion didn't get passed to give more power to the delegates. Even the delegates meeting is presided over by the EC. I would like to see that effort brought back again. It isn't the delegate system that is to blame for the state of the club. It was member apathy that led to its failure to meet the requirements to pass it. There was a number of obstructions to the process and plenty of resistance from the top that factored in heavily to the outcome as well though. That lack of concern from the units is what keeps the concentration of power and the status quo exactly where it is with leadership. The International club is an entity unto itself rather than representative or working for the benefit of a regular member. I agree with the former posts that the time spent on the moho issue year after year at the IBT's interjection despite the general membership's disapproval and vote against has deflected attention, time and energy (and money!) away from the business of improving the club for all unit members and their common experience.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:30 AM   #100
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International attendance is now down 90% since 1976 and 50% in 3 years.

I am not sure what needs to be done to fix this, probably lots of little things and then perhaps a slow climb back would begin. ...

Does any one see a way to stop this downhill spiral of both the rally and the club??
The answer is to make it fun. We attended the Madison international which was only 2 hours away. It was our first and last international. We are only 6 hours from Sedalia and we didn't even consider attending. Until the rally becomes fun and priced reasonably, we will not even consider attending another International. I do not want to be paying for "volunteers" to show up 4 weeks early on my dime.

There are a lot of other fun alternatives now - Allumanpolozza, Alumanfandago, Birthday Bash, Airfourm rallies, etc. The ways of the club are calcified and the older generation in leadership will not change. I believe that the club will bottom out with about 2,000 to 3,000 members down from the approximately 5,600 today. If SOB's are allowed in, then the decrease will be significantly faster. By the time leadership figures out that they need to change it may be too late. The leadership must first acknowledge that there is a serious problem and that if not fixed the club could go out of existence. An analogy is an alcoholic; until the alcoholic acknowledges that they are an alcoholic, they cannot begin meaningful and sustainable change. Many alcoholics never beat the disease. However, with the club I believe that the older generation in leadership just don't care about the long term survival of the club. As long as the club can survive while they are members, why change. I have accepted this and the WBCCI is not my primary avenue for Airstream fun.

As has been shown throughout the history of the world, those who don't adapt to the new environment go extinct.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:04 PM   #101
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Could someone please restate the current number of members and what was the number of attendance at the International for 2012 without comparison or analysis? I am actually missing the numbers, where they are. Thanks.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:05 PM   #102
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The answer is to make it fun.
I pretty much agree with your comments above. The exception is that I don't think you can "make it" anything other than what it is. Most people believe that all organizations can "become" something other than what they are. I don't think history bears that out. Plenty of examples show that organizations are birthed with some mission, and when the world changes, what really happens is that NEW organizations are birthed to serve the new missions as the old orders just fade away. e.g. Grange.

Being new to Airstreaming, I don't carry a lot of history. When I go to AS events the most common refrain I hear is this: "I don't care about all that political club crap. I only care about meeting people, travel and having fun. The old geezers can have their pow-wows, I am not interested."

It only took me a few club events to see the military roots and martial instincts of the club. If there is anything more calcifying than the military, I don't know what it is. "We've always done it this way."

Wally is dead. Probably what is needed is a new visionary "salesman." I say that affectionately. A salesman sets the vision and the dream. Airstreaming is infectiously fun and interesting, but we need a new vision. Once it occurs, people will flock to it and a new organization will emerge with modern values and purposes and goals and activities.

I am enjoying the club now because I enjoy the people and the process. So again, I bear no ill feeling to the people who are "trapped" in an ill-fitting organization.

I hope the new thing - whatever it is - emerges while I can still enjoy it! I'd be thrilled to be a part of a "new frontier" of Airstreamers - going where no one has gone before! (Metaphorically, of course).

Until then, we will enjoy the club as best we can. I won't however be wasting energy on things like the MoHo issue. Life is too short.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:08 PM   #103
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Could someone please restate the current number of members and what was the number of attendance at the International for 2012 without comparison or analysis? I am actually missing the numbers, where they are. Thanks.
On 4/18/2012 when I last asked Cindy Reed there were 5651 members

there were 458 KNOWN motorhomes

There were 597 MAL's

The last number mentioned on the broadcast yesterday was 451 trailers/moho at the rally.
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... 4793 members were represented by the 451 rigs in attendance (I added the 3rd VP votes together to get this number).
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:15 PM   #105
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... 4793 members were represented by the 451 rigs in attendance (I added the 3rd VP votes together to get this number).
The total membership numbers would be higher though because some units did not have a delegate present.. I think 107? units were represented out of 121 but am pulling those numbers from memory.. Should have written them down.
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The answer is to make it fun. We attended the Madison international which was only 2 hours away. It was our first and last international. We are only 6 hours from Sedalia and we didn't even consider attending. Until the rally becomes fun and priced reasonably, we will not even consider attending another International. I do not want to be paying for "volunteers" to show up 4 weeks early on my dime.

There are a lot of other fun alternatives now - Allumanpolozza, Alumanfandago, Birthday Bash, Airfourm rallies, etc. The ways of the club are calcified and the older generation in leadership will not change. I believe that the club will bottom out with about 2,000 to 3,000 members down from the approximately 5,600 today. If SOB's are allowed in, then the decrease will be significantly faster. By the time leadership figures out that they need to change it may be too late. The leadership must first acknowledge that there is a serious problem and that if not fixed the club could go out of existence. An analogy is an alcoholic; until the alcoholic acknowledges that they are an alcoholic, they cannot begin meaningful and sustainable change. Many alcoholics never beat the disease. However, with the club I believe that the older generation in leadership just don't care about the long term survival of the club. As long as the club can survive while they are members, why change. I have accepted this and the WBCCI is not my primary avenue for Airstream fun.

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Old 07-01-2012, 03:06 PM   #108
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I would like to know how many of the total counted attendees at the International are "volunteers" getting to spend a mo.
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True (in fact, TAC is not-a-club, as the founders early posts on Airforums explain), but it is not clear that TAC has any answers, either.

From what I have heard, the attendance at TAC's [Wally Byam's] Birthday Bash is declining even faster than attendance at the WBCCI International, on a percentage basis. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
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I believe there were about 200+ rigs here as "early workers". I feel that is too many, some of these folks work very hard as "volunteers" so don't try to make all as getting a free month. The parking crew, traffic control, verification have been working out in 95-100 degree temps every day. Also the members of the club band and chorus come in early to practice. Now, a person doesn't need to come in early to co-ordinate bridge etc. so some folks don't work so hard. Most early workers arrived around the 15th. Next year, the water crew will put down the water lines, so will have much work to do. Also, next year, the "sanitation" crew will be busy, so if you want to come early there will be work. The intent is that the rally will get where it will require many less early workers and that the "many" aren't paying for the few.

I am being installed as the president of region 3, and so far have not been provided with any free meals, in fact I've paid for all of them and have paid from my pocket for my flags, region clothing, and the fuel to get here. I believe in the club and am working to keep it going....as are many members.
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