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02-05-2014, 11:40 PM
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#221
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4 Rivet Member ![](/ugala/forums/images/4rivet.gif)
2018 30' International
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Los alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 359
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It often seems the adage ," every group has a funny bone, wish bone and a backbone" works for me in every group I belong to. Always fun to everyone regardless of their piece of the pie. Anything more and I'm gone.
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02-06-2014, 04:18 AM
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#222
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Eubanks, you are absolutely correct. You have defined the two types of club members, no matter what the club. Some join only for the friendship, the social part, others for the thrill of doing dif things with like minded people. Both good, neither exclusive. Jim
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02-06-2014, 07:41 PM
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#223
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
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2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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Well, I don't know, I only like silver trailers!
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WBCCI 8653/AIR 60240
2022 Ford F150 PowerBoost Platinum w/7.2KW
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02-10-2014, 09:58 PM
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#224
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4 Rivet Member ![](/ugala/forums/images/4rivet.gif)
2018 30' International
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Los alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 359
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In the recent Blue Beret, the VP of AS article stated,"60% of all new AS sold in 2014 are first time buyers between the ages of 50-69. Plenty of prospects to invite into the WBCCI. Considering there are 50 units built every week, that is 2,500 new units, of which 1,500 first timers. And I was one of those first timers and mentored into the WBCCI, by a long time member, I still have never met. Hope meet him down the road.
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02-14-2014, 06:16 PM
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#225
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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Thought I'd share observations after returning home from AlumaFiesta event in Tucson.. More than 100 Airstreams of all types demonstrating true diversity.. Loyal WBCCI members, unhappy ex-members and others who were unfamiliar.. Some were long-term owners, and one couple bought their trailer across the road and drove into the event with total towing experience of 1/2 mile..
Point is that combination of social hours, tours and interesting seminars, entertainment (from Taiko drumming to sword swallowers to Flamenco guitar...) made for very happy week, and meeting a number of new friends.. The common theme was "enjoying the opportunities an Airstream enables" with fellow travelers and no politics or parliamentarians... Only 1 common meal in the big tent on closing night, but lots of smaller group socializing and roving happy hours... As others have noted above, doing the same thing over and over with the same people might seem fun to some, but it won't hold the interest of those seeking new experiences. Our Airstreams enable the ability to see new things and go new places, and the common bond is the openness to engage our fellow travelers and make new friends from the comfort of our aluminum rolling shelters..
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In Theory, there's no difference between Theory and Practice, but in Practice, there is usually a difference...
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02-22-2014, 06:36 PM
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#226
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4 Rivet Member ![](/ugala/forums/images/4rivet.gif)
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Centrally Located
, Wish you were here!
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 485
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Originally Posted by Blue Pearl
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They need someone to run a dog park at the rally, make it a dog park people will rave about...
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Great idea!!
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02-22-2014, 06:46 PM
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#227
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
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2012 27' Flying Cloud
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Great idea!!
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Agreed! That is a great idea!
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02-22-2014, 07:15 PM
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#228
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
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2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Woof!
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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03-23-2014, 02:15 PM
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#229
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4 Rivet Member ![](/ugala/forums/images/4rivet.gif)
1976 27' Overlander
Missoula
, Montana
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 438
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Lynn, I know you "closed" this thread but people are still adding "suggestions." I've followed it off and on because our unit seems a microcosm of the larger WBCCI - both in what they do, the challenges that fact it, and how they are handled. We joined the larger unit so we could belong to the Vintage club and, to be able to get our numbers that matched to ghost numbers on our trailer. And, while I recall one summer in Bozeman back in the 70's when there must have been an international rally, because there were hundreds (maybe thousands) of Airstreams parked near the university, I've not been moved to go to one and can't see a reason yet to drive to Gillette to park, well, anywhere in Gillette (no disrespect intended!). But, I've renewed with WBCCI and I'll continue.
Having said all that, I'm moved to post not to add another suggestion - you've had a tremendous number of good ones already, nor to vent a frustration, but to share the observations of another. We also belong to Tin Can Tourists - mainly to go to the Fiddlers Picnic Rally in Livingston each year, where the attraction is just sitting around and playing music... and a walk to the Yellowstone River only 100 yards away with a fly pole... and maybe a beer. The TCT's recent (Spring) e-newsletter included a long discussion by a member on "why car clubs fail" but related it to why the Tin Can Tourists, who targeted the same demographic, was booming. TCT's Facebook group, for example, has almost 11,000 members, WBCCI's only 700-some. Now, there are many sub-WBCCI, unit groups with almost as many Facebook members, that reflect, I'd think, the unit's popularity (Teresa's Oregon group shows almost 500). But back to the article - which in spite of its title, is not about car clubs, but is about this thread's topic.
What I found fascinating is that "why car clubs fail" could be written about WBCCI - the same issues, challenges, and so on. "Young people aren't interested in these old cars..." or "the internet is to blame..." or "they don't need to join the club to get information like we had to..." etc. Their membership is aging, national meets have declining attendance, and people aren't joining/renewing. The TCT article, though, took the "car club" examples and related it to the TCT club and asks, "What's the difference." But first, the article relates the demographics - the Greatest Generation, and their attributes, Boomers (and theirs), Gen X and Gen Y, and how in the TCT all their needs are met. I don't intend to paraphrase the whole article, but I'll quote just one small example from the author: "...I’m going to use my own experiences here. I am a Generation X member. I fit the standard Gen X profile very well. Frankly, the tried and true car club organizational structure makes someone like me crazy. An idea needs to go to the appropriate “committee”. That committee then gives the idea to the Board of Directors. The BoD then discusses it, may make changes, and back and forth. At this point, I’m over it, and have moved on to something that I can accomplish without all the hassle."
Sound familiar? The author goes on about how their organization has addressed the challenges and what it does different, hitting point-by-point about membership, volunteering, social media, rallies, etc. And I've gone on and on as well about this too long already! I just wanted to point it out as a source of information that comes from others similar to us. If anyone is interested, and can't access the newsletter on line but want to read more, pm me and I'll try to send it to you.
Dave
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WBCCI 1054
VAC
TAC
TCT
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03-23-2014, 03:35 PM
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Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OilnH2o
The TCT's recent (Spring) e-newsletter included a long discussion by a member on "why car clubs fail" but related it to why the Tin Can Tourists, who targeted the same demographic, was booming. TCT's Facebook group, for example, has almost 11,000 members, WBCCI's only 700-some.
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If anyone is interested, and can't access the newsletter on line but want to read more, pm me and I'll try to send it to you.
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The same article was linked in the March Region 3 newsletter, at the URL below:
http://origin.library.constantcontac...by+Tin+Can.pdf
I was interested in the following quote,
“Conversely, Tin Can Tourists, which is targeting the exact same demographic, is booming with membership skyrocketing. Events are being held all over the globe, with sell-out attendance and thousands of spectators attending to tour the trailers. The Facebook group has over 8,000 members, with more joining every day”
Can TCT members out there tell us more? How many members does TCT have? Is membership “skyrocketing”? Is TCT in fact holding events “all over the globe?” This is all news to me.
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03-23-2014, 04:14 PM
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Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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I am a member of the Tin Can Tourists. Very devoted people to their trailers. Many tow with vintage vehicles which adds to the attraction. The gatherings I have heard of are usually small, one near me had about 15 trailers. I do know there are get togethers all over and some draw many more members. All makes and models of trailers and mh are welcome if vintage. Jim
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03-23-2014, 05:58 PM
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Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zigzagguzzi
I am a member of the Tin Can Tourists. Very devoted people to their trailers. Many tow with vintage vehicles which adds to the attraction. The gatherings I have heard of are usually small, one near me had about 15 trailers.
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That's consistent with my impression of TCT, rather like the Vintage Airstream Club except for trailers of all brands. Sounds like a neat club, but probably not a real big club, which is why I puzzle over statements like ". . . events are being held all over the globe, with sell-out attendance and thousands of spectators attending. . ."
Maybe OilnH2o can tell us how many members attended the Fiddlers Picnic Rally?
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03-23-2014, 06:31 PM
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1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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One thing I think is being overlooked Concerning the overall club situation.
The clubs that appear to be doing well, TCT, Escapees, Possivly even Good Sam have one thing in common.
They do NOT change management people every year so once they pick a direction or goal they can keep moving toward it.
TCT is manged by the Bone family
Escapees is also family managed
Good Sam would be a corporate model but I would bet the people running it don't change annually either.
I don't think the whole answer is here but I do think it is a factor
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03-23-2014, 11:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member ![](/ugala/forums/images/4rivet.gif)
1976 27' Overlander
Missoula
, Montana
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuvite-F
Maybe OilnH2o can tell us how many members attended the Fiddlers Picnic Rally?
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Last year there were about 40 SOBs of various years (although mostly recent) with a few vintage, a nice Streamliner as I recall, 5-6 Airstreams, and roughly 12-15 of the Sisters on the Fly group, all of whom have small, old vintage Shastas and such. And a Curtis-Wright Clipper. But the big draw was the music, people both playing and listening. This was also a VAC event. I joined the TCT just to support the effort - it appears most of their events include vintage tow vehicles, too but they welcome all old travel trailers and RVs.
My point in posting the info was not the TCT group, but the article - reading it sounded just like WBCCI's issues.
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1976 Airstream Overlander International
WBCCI 1054
VAC
TAC
TCT
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03-24-2014, 06:17 AM
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#235
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Rivet Master ![](/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif)
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Some of the TCT get togethers appear to be in conjunction with other events. A good idea. Jim
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