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Old 08-22-2006, 09:51 AM   #197
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Seems to me all we need is a sign up sheet with contact info for MALs and someone to design a sticker and e-mail a bit of news (like your idea AirSpleen.)

Just get organized. Do we need a proper sanction? Not unless you want the rule book, flags, ceremonies, etc. We all know VAC would be VAC with or without WBCCI. So...
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:09 AM   #198
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Seems to me all we need is a sign up sheet with contact info for MALs and someone to design a sticker and e-mail a bit of news (like your idea AirSpleen.)

Just get organized. Do we need a proper sanction? Not unless you want the rule book, flags, ceremonies, etc. We all know VAC would be VAC with or without WBCCI. So...
Interesting. Why not start a MAL Unit? Just pretend its a tradional unit and ignore the rule book.
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Old 08-22-2006, 11:40 AM   #199
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Interesting. Why not start a MAL Unit? Just pretend its a tradional unit and ignore the rule book.
I think though, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, you still need a semblance of organization and structure. Mother and Regional WBCCI still want to see certain things from you, so you do need worker bees who will maintain that structure. I know that's half the battle in keeping folks in our unit.

That's where I have misgivings regarding how footloose and fancy free a MAL unit could be. One of the beauties of dropping out is that with groups like the forum here, there is no structure or organization to report to...and nobody gets my $70 which I can sorely use as a fill up in the future.

Yes there is a lot of tradition with the WBCCI organization, but times have changed and with the work pressures and family stuff to do, a structureless organization has a lot of appeal.

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Old 08-22-2006, 11:58 AM   #200
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A MAL has already decided it's worth the $70.00 to join WBCCI. MALs not getting a vote swings both ways, no voice in the traditional government but conversely not subject to it's units' specifications.

There is nothing stopping MALs to identify themselves and have their own non WBCCI unit and still be members of WBCCI in good stead with the payment of their dues. It is no different than the forum groups, it would simply be a group of Airstreamers that would like some kind of cohesion to one another and a separate identity (not precluding any of their other "hats".)

I contend they all may be in fact do-bees already and can self govern and conduct themselves civilly as citizens of the world with one simple rule of do unto others. Over legislation is best left to those that thrive on it, the officers and those with a vote. No need to be rigid, be MAL-leable!
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:01 PM   #201
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99 I'm surprised at you. That was right out of the CONTROL handbook -- article XXXIII, Section 27B, paragraph five.

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:05 PM   #202
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Talking Chapter UB313

So how do I sign up??

Can we work in a bunny into the logo somehow? Maybe a bunny in a space suit?

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Old 08-22-2006, 08:43 PM   #203
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I know - there are many yucky ones out there, but not mine!

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Old 08-23-2006, 08:54 AM   #204
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Old 08-23-2006, 10:59 AM   #205
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The only thing about that is a local unit may really frown on lack of participation. It was an eyeopener for me that my lack of attendance was causing disgruntle-ment (is that a word?) My husband and I try our best to get our Airstream out of the home area whenever we can and spend extended periods away from home on a regular basis and miss meetings and rallies. We don't like hurting people's feelings that we don't show up.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:21 AM   #206
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region ub313.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_UB313

now for those not following this issue,

pluto was recently about 2b 'unplaneted'...yes that's right we almost lost pluto!

but instead the star guys debating this issue decided to include a whole group of icey bodies way out there....like ub313. we are gonna get MORE planets!
Not quite so fast...the pluto-planet-"icy body" debate is culminating today with a vote. Here is the detailed article from Fox News for anyone interested in celestial happenings which could affect the future of our club.

Pluto's Planetary Status Looks Doomed Ahead of VoteThursday, August 24, 2006

PRAGUE, Czech Republic — Pity poor Pluto: After decades of being confused with a cartoon dog and enduring ridicule as a puny poser, the solar system's consummate cling-on is now in danger of losing its status as a planet.
Leading astronomers vote Thursday on new guidelines that for the first time would define what is and isn't a planet. Unfortunately for the ninth rock from the sun, they seemed intent on demoting Pluto to a "dwarf" — a step below Earth and the seven other "classical" planets.

Fans of Pluto, which was discovered in 1930, will go into orbit if the International Astronomical Union downgrades it. But under pressure from opponents, the organization has backed off its original plan to retain Pluto's status and bring three other objects into the cosmic club.

If the 2,500 astronomers from 75 nations meeting in Prague agree, Earth's neighborhood will officially shrink to eight planets from the traditional nine. "There would be only eight planets, plus the dwarf planets," said Japanese astronomer Junichi Watanabe, a member of the IAU's planet definition committee.

"Some say, 'No, Pluto is a nice planet'" and should remain one, Watanabe said. "But this is a natural way to draw a line."
Resolutions being considered by the group, the official arbiter of heavenly bodies, would define a planet as "a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."
Anything less would be either a dwarf planet, as in Pluto's case, or a "small solar system body," which would cover many asteroids, comets or other natural satellites.

It was unclear how Pluto's possible demotion could affect the mission of NASA's New Horizons spacecraft, which earlier this year began a 9 1/2-year journey to the oddball object to unearth more of its secrets.

Astronomers want to draw a sharp distinction between the eight "classical planets" — Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune — and Pluto, which is smaller than Earth's moon, no larger than many objects in its area and has an eccentric orbit.

Joining it as dwarfs would be its largest moon, Charon; the asteroid Ceres, which was a planet in the 1800s before it got demoted; and a recently discovered object known as 2003 UB313 and nicknamed Xena.

Just a week ago, all three objects were poised to become planets under an initial draft definition that would have created a new class of planetary objects to be dubbed "plutons."
But that idea left many astronomers cold, triggering days of spirited and sometimes combative debate that led to the latest proposal to dump Pluto.

Many believe there's simply no scientific justification to grant full planet status to most of what's floating in the vast sea of rocks that reside in the Kuiper Belt — a mysterious, disc-shaped zone beyond Neptune containing thousands of comets and planetary objects.

Forget the term "pluton" — it's already history, replaced by "plutonium object."

The IAU backed off after getting dozens of objecting e-mails from scientists, including geologists who pointed out — somewhat embarrassingly to astronomers — that "pluton" is already a prominent term in volcano science for deep igneous rock formations.

"What were they thinking?" said Allen F. Glazner, a geologist at the University of North Carolina. "It would be like botanists trying to distinguish between trees and shrubs and coming up with the term 'animal.'"

Suddenly, the future looks dim for much-maligned Pluto, named for the God of the underworld.

Its underdog status has inspired scores of tributes, including one by New York folk singer Christine Lavin that laments: "I guess if Pluto showed up at a planet convention, the bouncer at the door might have to ban it."
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well kids....

...region ub313.....

but instead the star guys debating this issue decided to include a whole group of icey bodies way out there....like ub313. we are gonna get MORE planets!

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It's official - the universe just got smaller. There are only 8 planets - throw out everything you learned in school. Astronomers say Pluto is not a planet. Pluto is now a "dwarf planet". The icy object "2003 UB313" also now has that distinction.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:28 AM   #208
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Is this part of that "Less is more" lingo? Personally, I always thought More equalled More. The times and the talk are a'changin'!
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:48 AM   #210
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It's official - the universe just got smaller. There are only 8 planets - throw out everything you learned in school. Astronomers say Pluto is not a planet. Pluto is now a "dwarf planet". The icy object "2003 UB313" also now has that distinction.
I am still upset I spent my time in school learning that the atom was the smallest indivisible particle, and never mind the geography... Well who am I to kick, at least I am not quite old enough to have been taught the world was flat.

So I figures I will just wait long enough with my "higher learnin'" and my slang will also be accepted by then by Webster. I am saving up my few last remaining brain cells for memorizing the teachers' "best and final answer."
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